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01-20-2013, 11:15 AM
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Join Date: Mar 10, 2010
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I normally don't weigh in on political issues, but there is something crying out to be said. Mea Culpa if it's already been addressed and I missed it...
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To all you clowns (and I use the word with full knowledge of its literal definition) who cry about banning hammers, or baseball bats, or any other inanimate object, get me a story, JUST ONE VERIFIABLE STORY, of a hammer that killed someone from a range of a thousand yards. Or of a baseball bat that killed fifteen and wounded thirty in the space of sixty seconds.
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Gun violence in this country is a serious problem, and to address it we need serious people with serious ideas. What we don't need are idiots who want to spout off platitudes in the hopes of making points, or of trying to sound funny. You don't. You sound idiotic. If you have nothing worthwhile to share, don't share.
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I for one am not sure where I stand on this issue. I believe in the Second Amendment, yet I deplore the way a fully automatic weapon can end so many lives so quickly, and I question the need (note that word please, it's not want or desire) for a private citizen to own such weapons. Still, the road to restricting personal freedoms starts as a gentle, well meaning slope, and can get out of hand quickly if we're not careful.
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I don't profess to have the answers. But I do want to be involved in serious debate and discussion, in the hopes of reaching a consensus. Just please don't tell me that I need to ban cast iron skillets just because some broad in Peoria killed her husband with one.
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Does this count?
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01-20-2013, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Dec 26, 2010
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As what? Proof that you're one of the idiots, or proof that you're not? Insufficient data, although I am leaning in one particular direction...
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01-20-2013, 11:35 AM
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As what? Proof that you're one of the idiots, or proof that you're not? Insufficient data, although I am leaning in one particular direction...
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Lighten up! Tell us a dirty limerick.
I'll start.
There once was a whoremonger from Austin....
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01-20-2013, 12:36 PM
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Welcome to the Sandbox, Poet. Please feel free to join in any of the dozen-plus threads currently going on gun-control. Oh, also check the sticky rules thread at the top of the forum so you are fully aware of what you're getting into.
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01-20-2013, 01:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 20, 2010
Location: From hotel to hotel
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Originally Posted by Poet Laureate
I normally don't weigh in on political issues, but there is something crying out to be said. Mea Culpa if it's already been addressed and I missed it...
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To all you clowns (and I use the word with full knowledge of its literal definition) who cry about banning hammers, or baseball bats, or any other inanimate object, get me a story, JUST ONE VERIFIABLE STORY, of a hammer that killed someone from a range of a thousand yards. Or of a baseball bat that killed fifteen and wounded thirty in the space of sixty seconds.
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Gun violence in this country is a serious problem, and to address it we need serious people with serious ideas. What we don't need are idiots who want to spout off platitudes in the hopes of making points, or of trying to sound funny. You don't. You sound idiotic. If you have nothing worthwhile to share, don't share.
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I for one am not sure where I stand on this issue. I believe in the Second Amendment, yet I deplore the way a fully automatic weapon can end so many lives so quickly, and I question the need (note that word please, it's not want or desire) for a private citizen to own such weapons. Still, the road to restricting personal freedoms starts as a gentle, well meaning slope, and can get out of hand quickly if we're not careful.
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I don't profess to have the answers. But I do want to be involved in serious debate and discussion, in the hopes of reaching a consensus. Just please don't tell me that I need to ban cast iron skillets just because some broad in Peoria killed her husband with one.
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Amen! Just be careful--if you keep posting sane comments the wackos on both ends of the spectrum will want you flogged.
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01-20-2013, 03:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 17, 2011
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l.*Quote**ReplyQUOTE=Poet Laureate;1052234444]I normally don't weigh in on political issues, but there is something crying out to be said. Mea Culpa if it's already been addressed and I missed it...
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To all you clowns (and I use the word with full knowledge of its literal definition) who cry about banning hammers, or baseball bats, or any other inanimate object, get me a story, JUST ONE VERIFIABLE STORY, of a hammer that killed someone from a range of a thousand yards. Or of a baseball bat that killed fifteen and wounded thirty in the space of sixty seconds.
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Gun violence in this country is a serious problem, and to address it we need serious people with serious ideas. What we don't need are idiots who want to spout off platitudes in the hopes of making points, or of trying to sound funny. You don't. You sound idiotic. If you have nothing worthwhile to share, don't share.
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I for one am not sure where I stand on this issue. I believe in the Second Amendment, yet I deplore the way a fully automatic weapon can end so many lives so quickly, and I question the need (note that word please, it's not want or desire) for a private citizen to own such weapons. Still, the road to restricting personal freedoms starts as a gentle, well meaning slope, and can get out of hand quickly if we're not careful.
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I don't profess to have the answers. But I do want to be involved in serious debate and discussion, in the hopes of reaching a consensus. Just please don't tell me that I need to ban cast iron skillets just because some broad in Peoria killed her husband with one.[/QUOTE]
A the risk of being redundant, I will repost my response from earlier in this discussion...
"And they say Conservatives have no sense of humor. Regardless, Old-T, I'll try to keep it simple for you. It is not the implement that kills, but rather the person wielding said instrument. We can quote statistics back and forth ad infinitum and regulate everything from AR-15's to toothbrushes, but that won't change the fact that an inanimate object cannot kill."
Guns, or hammers, or any other inanimate object, don't kill from 1000 yards...people do. THAT'S THE POINT!!!!
Other than your asshole "clown" comment, much of what you say is reasonable, and demonstrates the complexity of this issue. However, regardless of all the extraneous hyperbole, when you say "the road to restricting personal freedoms starts as a gentle, well meaning slope, and can get out of hand quickly if we're not careful", you capture my position, and most gun rights advocates' position, perfectly.
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01-20-2013, 04:13 PM
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Join Date: Dec 19, 2009
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They can't win an argument with facts and reason, so they curse and engage in personal attacks. Foul language is the only arrow in their quiver.
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Oh my God oh my God oh my God. Are you a real person?
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01-20-2013, 08:33 PM
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that's bullshit, Bloehard!
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