OBAMA TO USE EXECUTIVE ORDER TO END-RUN CONGRESS ON GUN CONTROL

[Whirlaway]

Tyranny by the President............I never thought we would see this kind of power grab in America.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-violence.html

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Tyranny by the President............I never thought we would see this kind of power grab in America.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-0...-violence.html

What, or who, is going to stop him. Certainly not the 2d Amendment, and certainly not Congress, or at least the Upper House.

[CJ7]

at first glance it looks like an EO is a threat to get everyone to the table for talks about ways to curtail gun violence ... if not, why even mention it, just issue EO's and be done with it ... that would be tyranny

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by CJ7

at first glance it looks like an EO is a threat to get everyone to the table for talks about ways to curtail gun violence ... if not, why even mention it, just issue EO's and be done with it ... that would be tyranny

... if he issues an executive order he gets a judicial ruling faster ...

.....in the meantime "it's the law" and can be enforced.

He's done that with the EPA "rules" ... promulgate the rules, then let the Court's sort it out.

[joe bloe]

This guy is testing his limits. He's governing outside of his authority. Everytime he exceeds his authority and doesn't get stopped, he gets bolder.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

... if he issues an executive order he gets a judicial ruling faster ...

.....in the meantime "it's the law" and can be enforced.

He's done that with the EPA "rules" ... promulgate the rules, then let the Court's sort it out.

understood

it still sounds like a threat to start talks, that said, from a popularity standpoint the EPA isnt 2nd amendment / gun laws ..

[i'va biggen]

Best thing is to get in a shit your pants panic mode long before anything happens.

[Seedy]

Yep, and we can all thank the libtards, for what he has done , and what he is going to do.

[LovingKayla]

An we can thank the conservatives for setting it up so the dems could take that train and run. They are all evil men and women.

[timpage]

I'll be interested to see if Biden and the administration start walking this comment from Biden back pretty quick.

But, there is a long history of controversial executive orders that made huge changes in the law. Eisenhauer used an EO to order school desegregation. Lincoln freed the slaves with an EO, the emancipation proclamation. I think Reagan used an EO to prohibit the use of federal funds for abortions.

I dunno, I can't envision Obama using an EO to ban assault rifles if for no other reason than the next GOP president would just immediately reverse it with another EO. I think this may have been Biden just running his yap....wouldn't be the first time.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

This guy is testing his limits. He's governing outside of his authority. Everytime he exceeds his authority and doesn't get stopped, he gets bolder.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson

The checks and balances are supposed to work. If the President does something that is contrary to the Constitution, (2d Amendment), the only recourse that Congress has is to bring articles of impeachment.
But, since the Senate is far to interested in sucking the Presidents dick, that will never happen, or at the very least it will be an exercise in futillity.
The Supreme Court can wait untill a challenge case finally makes it to their venue, but that could take years.
So, Like I said before, who, or what, will stop him. His word will become Law, and that will give the Police the right to be knocking on your door.
Sooner or later the President will get around to something that the Left considers sacred. I suspect it will be something concerning the first Amendment, you know, the one that gives you the Right to write pretty much what you want to and shoot your mouth off without impunity.

I hope Timpage is right, and it's Biden just "being Biden".

[Randy4Candy]

Well, Teawipes, takes me back to the golden days of yesteryear.....

If The President for Four More Years is running a sweep around LEFT end - hell, boyz, I'm pulling and leading the play. Trendy, how 'bout a set of cleats up your sorry ass? Be sure to get square, keep your butt low and back arched - it won't matter - I'll still put you in the fifth row.

[fetishfreak]

Originally Posted by joe bloe

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Thomas Jefferson

Interesting quote considering it is from the first president to admit to taking in action that violated the Constitution.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

What, or who, is going to stop him. Certainly not the 2d Amendment, and certainly not Congress, or at least the Upper House.

A court injunction contravening an executive order has the same immediacy as an executive order.

[Sidewinder]

Originally Posted by timpage

But, there is a long history of controversial executive orders that made huge changes in the law. Eisenhauer used an EO to order school desegregation. Lincoln freed the slaves with an EO, the emancipation proclamation.

First, Lincoln's Executive Order, the Emancipation Proclamation, dated January 1, 1863, only freed the slaves in those states that were currently rebelling against the Federal government. Delaware, Kentucky, Maryland, and Missouri, all slave states, never seceded from the Union. See this for more information.

Nor did the Emancipation Proclamation make slavery illegal. That had to wait until December 18, 1865, when the Thirteenth Amendment took effect.

Second, the Supreme Court ruling in Brown v. Board of Education 347 U.S. 483 (1954) outlawed segregated public schools. In 1957, the state of Arkansas refused to honor a federal court order to integrate their public school system stemming from the Brown decision. Eisenhower demanded that Orval Faubus, then-governor of Arkansas, comply with the ruling. When Faubus refused, Eisenhower placed the Arkansas National Guard under Federal control and sent in the 101st Airborne to make it stick.

Eisenhower did not order school desegregation. The Supreme Court had already done that.