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Old 12-22-2012, 06:54 AM   #1
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Default Interested in providers take on this, outed by the press and a shrink's take

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...amilton-136952

Above link discusses a 3 time Olympian and motivational speaker outed by the press as a $600/hr provider. While the article is interesting in and of itself, and has pictures the dawgs on here will enjoy, I am interested in the reaction of the ladies to the Fox News shrink's opinion on the story above which I posted below.

After reading it, while I dunno why, I can't get the image of Mr. happy as a cross dresser out of my head, LOL.

Dr. Albow stated...
"Suzy Favor Hamilton, 44, who is married, a former Olympic US track star, a motivational speaker and who appeared in an ad for Nike (and promotional work for Disney), has admitted to also working as a $600-an-hour prostitute.
Why would she do that? What could drive a woman seemingly not in desperate need of funds to have sex with men for money?
First, there are likely women whose interest in being hired for sex is so strong that, for all intents and purposes, it is their "sexual orientation." They are sexually excited far more (or almost exclusively) by sex with strangers, and with as little emotion as possible (hence, they exchange in the act for money).
In this way, these women are not different (only in their particular tastes) from other women (and men) who want to be hurt during sex or who want to dress in clothing of the opposite gender prior to sex. -- A woman wanting to sell herself because she thinks it is exciting is not much more dramatic than a man who wants to dress as a ballerina in order to feel excited.
While it is extremely dangerous psychologically and medically, the truth is that high- priced prostitution is rampant in America and available in every city. Millions of American men with families and professions are customers.
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Second, while the intensity of desire to participate in prostitution could be so compelling as to constitute something akin to a sexual orientation, that orientation may well be well be rooted in life events during childhood and adolescence that left that girl feeling powerless or manipulated or unloved. Reproducing such feelings can be an extremely magnetic force.
Prostitutes I have treated have told me that getting calls from strangers wanting to have sex with them reinforces (in an unfortunate way, of course) their belief that they are special and attractive. And it may well be that entering and leaving hotel rooms and apartments where these women could certainly be badly hurt is a way of—sadly--demonstrating their invulnerability (when they were badly hurt as children, often at home).
Third, there are probably a minority of women (and men) in the business of prostitution for whom it carries no stigma and is lucrative.
If we assume that Ms. Hamilton had ten clients a week (and she may have had many more), then she could have been making $300,000 a year in cash, which is, even prior to the so-called "fiscal cliff," like making $400,000 a year in taxed income.
If she had 20 clients a week (and some of the prostitutes I have treated as a psychiatrist have had 20 clients a week), then she would have made $600,000 a year -- in cash.
Ms. Hamilton may have had some income as a motivational speaker, and her husband may have made some money, but, unless they were extremely wealthy, $600,000 a year in cash may have been key to their lifestyle.
While it is extremely dangerous psychologically and medically, the truth is that high-priced prostitution is rampant in America and available in every city. Millions of American men with families and professions are customers. And not every prostitute is devastated psychologically by the experience.
As one lawyer and prostitute put it to me when she was in my office for psychotherapy, “I suppose that there is some scatter effect, in terms of making it more complicated to have a boyfriend and make sex intimate with him, but I don’t know if it’s more complicated than getting back home from working as a police officer or pediatric neurosurgeon or gynecologist. Lots of professions are incredibly complicated, emotionally.”
The fact is that some women are—whether pathologically or not (which is a longer discussion)—“able” to separate sex from meaningful and ongoing emotional connections and to charge for it. Because their behavior is against the law in most states, they can also make a great deal of money doing so, if they are also attractive.
I take no moral position on the matter, which may be why I have been able to help a number of these women find their true motivations for such work, see the real and substantial psychological risks and make clearer decisions about whether to continue with it."
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Old 12-22-2012, 07:08 AM   #2
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You lost the credibility when you started working your calculator. Hobby economics defies normal economic theory and mathematics.

Many elite athletes just have high libidos.
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Old 12-22-2012, 09:45 AM   #3
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I use to lust after Suzy back in the 90's when I was serious about running (knees can't handle that kind of running anymore). It seemed like she was on the cover of Runners World every other month and our paths crossed on multiple occasions. I'd have hit that in a second if i'd had any idea she was down for that or that she became a provider. Back then i actually got the impression she was playing for the other team. I think it only makes sense that providers come from all walks of life just like us hobbyists.
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:56 PM   #4
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First off she was a low volume and damn hard to get in to see. So making that much is some massive speculation. Though the first three times I did try and book with her she was going to be tied up on a full day booking to which they charged 6k.

I just have a hard time with her being trusting enough to have told someone who she really was and them to go to some sleeze website and out her in such a manner. So yeah she was difficult to see. A lot of chicks are. She wasn't a total bitch and the BCD was tip top in every way and means. Add that to a seriously rocking body and her NOT looking her age. Just don't get some people..
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Old 12-22-2012, 01:25 PM   #5
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more pics:

http://www.radaronline.com/photos/im...ds-a-call-girl

http://www.heavy.com/action/2012/12/...pian-escort/5/

Suzy is quite sexy and I wish I could date her. I think she is getting even prettier in middle age. A bit out of my price range. She was the 3rd highest ranked lady on TER.
I also wish to hear what our providers think about the article. Should she keep on escorting? Will she be able to stop, or will her desire be too strong? She at first wanted to do it to fulfill a fantasy, but then could not stop. It seems like she had a lot of healthy desire. It is sad she was outed, but she will now have a long line of new customers. I know most of us guys would love to spend time with her. She is probably pretty well ruined with Disney. Should she use her new found fame to her advantage?
Will her marriage stay together now? He already knew, anyway. How many other women in various walks of life have the same fantasy of being an escort? Is escorting dangerous psychologically? Do some women have more sexual desire than one man can handle? Is escorting a mentally healthy way to achieve sexual satisfaction? If Suzy had not been outed, would she have a desire to stop escorting? If she goes back to escorting, could that have a positive effect on the way escorts are viewed? Could she be the spokesman who could make high class escorting more acceptable to society? it seems a lot of people in high places and with good jobs accept it in secret, as so many participate. Seems she has been functioning quite well in the real world, as long as most people didn't know about her fantasy world. I certainly wish the best for her. She seems like a real special lady. I wish I knew how to contact her and tell her I support her.
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:42 PM   #6
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I just have a hard time with her being trusting enough to have told someone who she really was and them to go to some sleeze website and out her in such a manner
Of course, it could be the client was an Olympic fan who happened to recognize her first without her just revealing her identity out of the blue. High-end providers don't tend to reveal their real life identity to a client unless there is an incredible amount of trust built up first (and quite often not even then.) The fact that she was a celebrity may have changed the equation.
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Old 12-22-2012, 02:49 PM   #7
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Of course, it could be the client was an Olympic fan who happened to recognize her first without her just revealing her identity out of the blue. High-end providers don't tend to reveal their real life identity to a client unless there is an incredible amount of trust built up first (and quite often not even then.) The fact that she was a celebrity may have changed the equation.

A quote from the story... "While Favor Hamilton (seen at right) has used an alias, “Kelly Lundy,” when working as an escort, she inexplicably shared her true identity with several male clients, believing that her secret was somehow safe with strangers who paid for her company by leaving envelopes stuffed with cash on bathroom vanities in swanky hotel."

Try and keep up. You would be quite shocked how many 1k plus and hour girls will freely tell you details like this.
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Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

There is a line. Sure some clients know more true life details than others, but even those - ones I consider myself "close to"....don't know 10% of me. And vice versa. I DONT want to know your life details...really I dont. The more RL I know, the more dangerous. Sure, I may ask @ your work..how old are your kids etc...feel free to pass along details but NEVER give me specifics...or anyone else. Fellow hobbyists, ATF's, trusted dawgs....wtf ever. NO.

Bottom line: If they are not invited to your house to celebrate your child's birthday party with your SO, family & friends......then they are not a "trusted friend".

Yes, you have to keep it separate..you have to be able to drop it at the blink of an eye and go into RL just as quickly. (if you have a real life, many dont...this is their world & thats sad from a human point of view and I would think scary for clients)
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:22 PM   #9
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I understand all that about the risks of being outed, etc. but what I wanted to know if providers thought the shrink was good or fos.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:24 PM   #10
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Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

There is a line. Sure some clients know more true life details than others, but even those - ones I consider myself "close to"....don't know 10% of me. And vice versa. I DONT want to know your life details...really I dont. The more RL I know, the more dangerous. Sure, I may ask @ your work..how old are your kids etc...feel free to pass along details but NEVER give me specifics...or anyone else. Fellow hobbyists, ATF's, trusted dawgs....wtf ever. NO.

Bottom line: If they are not invited to your house to celebrate your child's birthday party with your SO, family & friends......then they are not a "trusted friend".

Yes, you have to keep it separate..you have to be able to drop it at the blink of an eye and go into RL just as quickly. (if you have a real life, many dont...this is their world & thats sad from a human point of view and I would think scary for clients)

Fully agree.. But there are always weak ass sucker guys who think "But she is my friend".. It is business pure and simple. NO ONE is a friend. Especially a female. But these idiots trust and then get all asshurt when they end up blackmailed ect...
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Oh dont make me read that article again. Whats the psycho..erm psychologhist say? Daddy issues? Unloved child?

1)She's a recognizable public figure posting ads rates & pix and getting reviews in Vegas.

She's either an idiot or arrogant to the point of idiocy. Doesnt matter how you get to idiot once you're there does it?

Blad, same goes for guys...I hear more about other providers from clienst than I ever have from the ladies themselves. STFU....if the provider didnt tell me, I wasnt meant to know.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:57 PM   #12
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Oh dont make me read that article again. Whats the psycho..erm psychologhist say? Daddy issues? Unloved child?

1)She's a recognizable public figure posting ads rates & pix and getting reviews in Vegas.

She's either an idiot or arrogant to the point of idiocy. Doesnt matter how you get to idiot once you're there does it?

Blad, same goes for guys...I hear more about other providers from clienst than I ever have from the ladies themselves. STFU....if the provider didnt tell me, I wasnt meant to know.
And you now know why I prefer no talking during a session.
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