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Old 11-21-2012, 05:28 PM   #46
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Again, I heard on BBC through NPR that the time during the cease fire is going to be used to stem the smuggling of arms to Hamas. We'll see.
You won't have to watch long.

It may take weeks, if not months, before "we" learn what Clinton offered, even if that didn't make the deal. She has no clout, just a purse...and a lean one too.

A resolution will come from the Egyptians not the U.S.
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why would Iran need any time to smuggle arms
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"An Iranian 150-ton freighter departed Bandar Abbas port Sunday, Nov. 18, with a cargo of 220 short-range missiles and 50 improved long-range Fajar-5 rockets for the Gaza Strip, debkafile’s intelligence sources report. The ship turned toward the Bab al-Mandeb Straits and the Red Sea.

"The new Fajar-5s have a 200-kilo warhead, which packs a bigger punch than the 175 kilos of explosives delivered by the rockets in current use with the Palestinian terrorists in the Gaza Strip. To extend their range to cover the 85 kilometers from Gaza to Tel Aviv, Hamas removed a part of their payloads to make them lighter.

"Tehran is sending the fresh supply of disassembled rockets to replenish the stocks its allies, the Palestinian Hamas and Jihad Islami, depleted in their round-the-clock attacks on Israel since Nov. 10. .

"To throw Israeli surveillance off the trail, the ship started its voyage called Vali-e Asr owned by the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines, and was quickly renamed Cargo Star and hoisted the flag of Tuvalu. This South Pacific island nation, which lies between Hawaii and Australia, has a tiny population of 11,000, most of them Polynesians. Iran provides most of its revenue since earlier this year when Prime Minister Willy Telavi agreed to register Iran’s entire tanker fleet of 22 vessels to Tuvalu, to help Tehran dodge the US-EU oil embargo.

"Our intelligence sources have learned that four big Sudanese shipping boats sailed out of Port Sudan early Monday and are waiting to rendezvous with the Cargo Star and offload its missile cargo in mid-sea.

"The Sudanese will then be told by Tehran whether put into Port Sudan with the missiles, or turn north and sail up the Red Sea to the Straits of Tiran to link up with Egyptian fishing boats which regularly ply this waterway in the service of Palestinian-Iranian smuggling networks. They would unload the missile cargo in a quiet inlet on the Sinai coast. From there, it would be carried to the smuggling tunnels running from Sinai under the border into the Gaza Strip.

"Palestinian teams assisted by Iranian and Hizballah technicians in the Gaza Strip would then assemble the new rockets and make them operational.

"Through most of the voyage, two Iranian warships, the Khark heliicopter carrier and Shahid Naqdi destroyer, which are posted permanently in the Red Sea, escorted the arms ship until the cargo changed hands.

"debkafile’s Iranian sources also disclose that the Jihad Islami leader Ramadan Abdullah Shelah was sharply remanded by Tehran for meeting Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi in Cairo Sunday to discuss terms for halting Israel’s counter-missile operation in Gaza now in its sixth day.
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thats like saying the US smuggled F18' s to Israel

pertty much a known fact where Israel gets its jets and where Hamas gets their arms


IMO if every allied force stood back and told those two war dogs to have at it, they were on their on, a peace agreement would be reached real soon
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thats like saying the US smuggled F18' s to Israel

pertty much a known fact where Israel gets its jets and where Hamas gets their arms


IMO if every allied force stood back and told those two war dogs to have at it, they were on their on, a peace agreement would be reached real soon
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Did you know the more sophisticated missiles were "on their way"?
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No one really expects the truce to last more than a few days.The idiots that just got their ass bombed off think they won.
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No one really expects the truce to last more than a few days.The idiots that just got their ass bombed off think they won.
Well, they haven't / didn't.
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Old 11-21-2012, 10:19 PM   #53
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You're a pig, SEE. And that ain't Kosher!
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Old 11-22-2012, 12:15 AM   #54
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Did you know the more sophisticated missiles were "on their way"?

the only problem Im having is the weapons were "smuggled"

with an exact count of what came in and whats on the way "smuggling" doest fit the scenario in any shape, form, or fashion ..

sounds really dramatic though, covert not so much.
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the only problem Im having is the weapons were "smuggled"...
There is a prohibition from such weapons being "brought" into the area occupied by the Palestinians, therefore it is called "smuggling" .... and given the "delivery" system devised by the Iranians with the cooperation of the Sudanese, according to the article, it seems that all parties involved in the "shipment" are aware of the prohibition and the Isrealis blockade to prevent the shipments from arriving.

Try taking your AR15 into Mexico.
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Try taking your AR15 into Mexico.
Would that be considered smuggling LOL?

CJ, everybody knows NO ONE but the Islamic extreamists want weapons of any kind, let alone sophicated ones, in the hands of Hamas or the PLO. It's a no brainer.

All this pretty much prooves up the Isralie contention that the ship headed for Palastine that got blown out of the water was indeed full of arms being smuggled and not full of humanitarian supplies.
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Olivia, does that make the USA Islamic terrorists? .. certainly is a good thing we dont want, make, and distribute sophisticated weaponry isnt it?

using the term smuggling because of a prohibition could be taken at face value, but once again, how does LL know exactly what weapons are supposed to be delivered before they are delivered? Isnt smuggling a covert opreation designed to hide the transportation and content being sent from one destination to the other?

it is what it is.
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Old 11-23-2012, 07:21 AM   #58
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Olivia, does that make the USA Islamic terrorists? .. certainly is a good thing we dont want, make, and distribute sophisticated weaponry isnt it?

using the term smuggling because of a prohibition could be taken at face value, but once again, how does LL know exactly what weapons are supposed to be delivered before they are delivered? Isnt smuggling a covert opreation designed to hide the transportation and content being sent from one destination to the other?

it is what it is.
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"To throw Israeli surveillance off the trail, the ship started its voyage called Vali-e Asr owned by the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Lines, and was quickly renamed Cargo Star and hoisted the flag of Tuvalu. ...

"Our intelligence sources have learned that four big Sudanese shipping boats sailed out of Port Sudan early Monday and are waiting to rendezvous with the Cargo Star and offload its missile cargo in mid-sea.

"The Sudanese will then be told by Tehran whether put into Port Sudan with the missiles, or turn north and sail up the Red Sea to the Straits of Tiran to link up with Egyptian fishing boats which regularly ply this waterway in the service of Palestinian-Iranian smuggling networks. They would unload the missile cargo in a quiet inlet on the Sinai coast. From there, it would be carried to the smuggling tunnels running from Sinai under the border into the Gaza Strip.

"Through most of the voyage, two Iranian warships, the Khark heliicopter carrier and Shahid Naqdi destroyer, which are posted permanently in the Red Sea, escorted the arms ship until the cargo changed hands.
... let me repeat ....

.......... "Egyptian fishing boats which regularly ply this waterway in the service of Palestinian-Iranian smuggling networks."

Egyptions .... the folks "brokering" a cease fire along with errr .. Mrs. Clinton.

Is anyone posting on here old enough to remember the "Cuban Missile Crisis" ...

... how about if the Soviets had placed missiles in Matamoras, Reynosa, Piedras Negras, Nueva Laredo, .... etc.?
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repeat all you want to

if some guy on a hooker board in the USA knows whats being delivered and where it aint exactly smuggling.
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if some guy on a hooker board in the USA knows whats being delivered and where it aint exactly smuggling.
Don't pay any attention to him. LL is just being his arrogant, egotistical, condescending self.

Nobody does it better!
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