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Old 11-08-2012, 01:50 AM   #1
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Default Peter Schiff: How Barack Obama Secured The Most Important Voting Demographic, The Idiots




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Congressional Research Service (CRS) Report: Welfare Government’s Single Largest Budget Item In FY 2011 At Approx. $1.03 Trillion
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:36 AM   #2
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And here is why the GOP can't win the demographics they need. Keep it up and in 2-3 general election cycles they'll be wondering what happened.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:44 AM   #3
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Yes, what better way to alienate the demographic that you just admitted was responsible for your loss....call them idiots.
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Old 11-08-2012, 07:47 AM   #4
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Idiots calling others idiots are doomed to repeat .
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Old 11-08-2012, 08:59 AM   #5
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Yes, what better way to alienate the demographic that you just admitted was responsible for your loss....call them idiots.
But that is exactly where they are. Almost every conservative radio program I listened to yesterday had that message. They really don't understand that their anger and superiority complex speaks far louder than their message. They are stuck in the pre-Selma 50s. The universe has passed them by.

I keep hoping the Republicans will return to what they were before the fundamentalist moralists invaded. I want to be able to vote FOR someone again, not cast a vote based upon who will make me feel less dirty.
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:08 AM   #6
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The republicans are not getting it and are angry, this is good for the left.
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But that is exactly where they are. Almost every conservative radio program I listened to yesterday had that message. They really don't understand that their anger and superiority complex speaks far louder than their message. They are stuck in the pre-Selma 50s. The universe has passed them by.

I keep hoping the Republicans will return to what they were before the fundamentalist moralists invaded. I want to be able to vote FOR someone again, not cast a vote based upon who will make me feel less dirty.



The public treasury has become the public trough.....

While calling Bath House Barry's supports idiots is not inaccurate, their greed is the problem. As Bill O'Reilly said on Fox News around 8:04 Tuesday night, "People want free stuff, and that's why I believe President Obama will win."
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Old 11-08-2012, 09:11 AM   #8
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Yes, what better way to alienate the demographic that you just admitted was responsible for your loss....call them idiots.
its more hateful to lie to them, how can they be healed without truth?
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Freedom from Responsibility

During the transition from limited government to the welfare state, freedom has come to mean freedom from responsibility. Such freedom, however, is not true freedom but a form of tyranny, which creates moral and social chaos.
The modern liberal’s vision of government is based on a twisted understanding of rights and justice—an understanding that clashes with the principle of freedom inherent in the higher law of the Constitution. Welfare rights, or entitlements, are “imperfect rights,” or pseudo-rights; they can be exercised only by violating what legal scholars call the “perfect right” to private property. Rights to welfare—whether to food stamps, public housing, health care, or business subsidies—create a legal obligation to help others. In contrast, the right to property, understood in the Lockean sense, merely obligates individuals to refrain from taking what is not theirs. For the modern liberal, justice refers to “social (or distributive) justice”—an amorphous term, subject to all sorts of abuse if made the goal of public policy, as F. A. Hayek has aptly noted in The Constitution of Liberty and other writings. As a norm for action, the concept of “social justice” leads to uncertainty and competition for government favors. The result is bigger government and corruption. The cost of the pursuit of social justice is the loss of freedom. Instead of creating certainty by limiting the range of government actions under a just rule of law, the modern “liberal” State has produced discord. Indeed, when the role of government is to do good with other people’s money, there is no end to the mischief government can cause.
Many Americans seem to have lost sight of the idea that the role of government is not to instill values but to protect those rights that are consistent with a society of free and responsible individuals. Everyone has a right to pursue happiness, but no one has the right to do so by depriving others of their liberty and their property.
When democracy overreaches, there is no end to the demands on the public purse, and the power of government grows. The Founding Fathers sought to create a republic with limited government, not an unlimited democracy in which the “winners” are allowed to impose their will and vision of the good society on everyone else. In such a system politics becomes a fight of all against all, like the Hobbesian jungle, and nearly everyone is a net loser as taxes rise, deficits soar, and economic growth slows.
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:07 AM   #10
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The republicans are not getting it and are angry, this is good for the left.
Sadly that is true. Unfortunately the left has almost as many sick ideas that are almost as bad as the Taliban Republicans.

Hopefully the center can reclaim the country before we hit an irrevocable problem. Assuming there are any centerists out there who haven't been killed by their own parties.
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before we hit an irrevocable problem.

Too late..................
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Old 11-08-2012, 10:31 AM   #12
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Too late..................
True. You are here.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:24 PM   #13
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The Republican still got the idiot vote. Read some of the bitter ass crybabies on here and you'll see where the line was drawn.

However, there is a silver lining. The GOP as we know it will either split, change or die.

The reaction by the Republican teabagger mob guarantees that the GOP will be irreparably splintered for the next generation.

They can't sit around and jerk off. They can't claim the election was stolen. All they can do is look in the mirror.

This was theirs to win, but they fucked it up plain and simple. Their agenda is WRONG. Their appeal is WRONG. Their platform is WRONG. Their base is shrinking.

Now they're just in such a rage, that a split is inevitable.

That would be good for the GOP. They'd be able to be Republicans again and not Jeeznajerk Tea Baggers.
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Old 11-08-2012, 12:25 PM   #14
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its more hateful to lie to them, how can they be healed without truth?
Still on and on with the lying mantra.

Well, try this one on -- it's hard to heal from a self inflicted dumbshot wound!
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