Your definition of value...

[Old-T]

I agree with Phantom's order: mental (I'm including attitude/personality in here), physical (not so much "she has to be really hot", but I at least have to be attracted), then services, finally ambiance (so long as it's at lease safe and clean).

Basicly, mental attracts me, physical and ambiance can put me off.

[Willen]

This is a FABULOUS thread.

I'll share my perception, as a 6+ year guy member of this world. Most guys, (but I don't know what 'most' means: is it 45-55%, is it 25-75%) value physical attributes. That means in particular age, weight, bust size, and what they can deduce about 'beauty.'

For you ladies, looking to learn what will get you the largest number of clients, those qualities count the most.

For those of us looking to have quality experiences, i.e. I can go back and get gratified by more than mechanical skills, then it is all about attitude and chemistry.

[Chevalier]

Whether I'm in the mood to see a new ladyfriend tends to depend much more on my life/mood, as well as whether there's an ATF or two available. But assuming that I am considering see new ladies, I agree with much of tigercat's post. Within the framework you suggest, I might order them:

1. Attitude & personality
2. Physical appearance
3. TCB
4. Ambiance
5. Services

The first two can be both positive and negative (or neutral) factors. And they are, of course, highly WALDT. In fact, for me, the first tends to be more WALDT and potentially a bigger positive or negative factor than the second. And fewer cases where the first factor is a strong positive rather than neutral -- but when it is!!! And the first factor is also more likely to be a negative/disqualifier than the second factor. That's why I rank them in that order.

People have come to understand -- for the most part -- that physical appearance is WALDT. Although there's still too much disparaging of others' preferences. But I think we lose sight sometimes of how WALDT attitude and personality can be. It's not just friendly versus standoffish, or quiet versus outspoken, or other yes/no dichotomies. There's a whole range of complex, different personalities to which we react differently. And there certainly are ladies whose personality enchants me but less so for other guys, and vice-versa. That's one reason indications of various different aspects of personality can be so useful. But it can be very difficult to judge in advance.

Third factor is a potential disqualifier -- more common than one might hope -- but not a potential positive factor. She either does or does not; it's neutral or negative, unlikely to be an enhancement. But it's important enough, and a problem often enough, to rank third.

The last two are occasional disqualifies, but not often in my experience. I'm happy with the "standard" offering that is almost always available. The rare sub-standard in either can turn me off but it doesn't come up often. I may enjoy something a bit beyond the standard in terms of services, but it's not something I seek out and not as important as the first three factors. Ambience? I certainly appreciate it but it's rarely as strong a factor in an initial selection as the first two factors.

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A more interesting question, to me: what about a particular client makes him a particular lady's favorite type of client. We rarely get clear answers about that; usually turns into "proper P4P etiquette." It's not so much fear of alienating potential clients, I suspect, as that many either are not very self-aware(common with the young) or just don't think that way in terms of clients. It's not very meaningful unless it really differentiates -- significantly narrows down how many fit within that description.

But it's interesting as far as insights into her attitude/personality. For those clients who rank those factors high, her judgment that their personalities are compatible may not be a slam-dunk, but it can be a powerful persuader.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by Chevalier

A more interesting question, to me: what about a particular client makes him a particular lady's favorite type of client. We rarely get clear answers about that; usually turns into "proper P4P etiquette." It's not so much fear of alienating potential clients, I suspect, as that many either are not very self-aware(common with the young) or just don't think that way in terms of clients. It's not very meaningful unless it really differentiates -- significantly narrows down how many fit within that description.

But it's interesting as far as insights into her attitude/personality. For those clients who rank those factors high, her judgment that their personalities are compatible may not be a slam-dunk, but it can be a powerful persuader.

For the most part, getting an appointment is as easy as proper P4P etiquette. Being nice, sending your request via a trusted channel, and being clear about your expectations is a plus.

But what makes for FAVORITE clients is one that shares my same thought process, and values the human aspect of our interaction. The kind of man that seeks out a woman that understands what it really takes for her to meet with someone she just met, and not have regrets (and this varies from woman to woman). And no, it's not money . Some women will take your money and still wish they didn't have to deal with you. She sees something that's rarely seen in you, expounds on it, giving you the freedom to act on your desires, and there's mutual respect for each other in the end.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Some women will take your money and still wish they didn't have to deal with you.

The laughter of the lady only lessens as I get farther away from the door.

[awl4knot]

I've picked "homely" girls on two occasions based on their board postings and stellar reviews. It is interesting that none of the reviews mentioned the heft of one girl and the plainness of the other, but that's another, shop worn topic.

In both instances I'm glad I did. The ladies were/ are sweet, uber smart, funny women with outstanding bedroom skills and the sex was outrageously good but for each I had do suppress my aesthetic sensibilities.

I don't regret the choices and I've repeated with one (the other retired; I was her last hurrah) but I think the experiment has run It's course. The lookers can also be sweet, uber smart, funny and demons under the sheets.

I don't know if these anecdotes advance the OP's research but question was asked.

[chipper]

Am I attracted to her?

Is she in my age range?

Is she geographically desirable?

Can I afford to see her?

Does her menu meet my expectations?


For repeating
Did she act like she was glad I chose her?

Did I enjoy being with her?

[geecue]

There are so many reasons why as all the posts have shown, to me if I want to return for a repeat visit then to me this is value.

[soxfan]

Apperance
Compatability
Services
Price

[Tiffani Jameson]

Guys, this has been rather interesting! Thank you very much for your comments and your votes.

[pyramider]

You will now be sworn to secrecy ... Post some taint.

[Willen]

Attitude trumps any other single factor. By 'attitude' I mean someone who promises to be drama free, who is professional on the TCB aspects, is mature, and who seems inclined to enjoy herself when she is treated with respect and learns that I'm interested in her having a good time.

Physical attributes count of course. But I've had top shelf times with all BMI-types, ethnicities, hair color &lengths, ages--you name it. But the ability to carry on a conversation is a huge plus.

My advice, market yourself honestly.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by Willen

Attitude trumps any other single factor. By 'attitude' I mean someone who promises to be drama free, who is professional on the TCB aspects, is mature, and who seems inclined to enjoy herself when she is treated with respect and learns that I'm interested in her having a good time.

Physical attributes count of course. But I've had top shelf times with all BMI-types, ethnicities, hair color &lengths, ages--you name it. But the ability to carry on a conversation is a huge plus.

My advice, market yourself honestly.

Great advice, Willen. Great minds think a lot.

I'm of the belief that I advertise myself honestly. But I wouldn't be a person with feelings (let alone a girl) if I didn't think about how I was being viewed. Your input has been valuable, and it confirmed what I already knew.

[Guest113018-1]

Thing that get me in the door are;
1. physical appearance( not neccisarily hot, but attractive to me)
2. how and how often she posts
3. what is in her bio and how it is said
4. reviews
Things that bring me back are;
1. attitude and personality( passionate)
2. how she makes me feel when I'm with her( IOP)
3. attitude and personality( sensual )
4. how I feel after I'm gone( I can't wait to get back)
5. passion and sensuallity
6. attitude and personality
7. menu options and skill set
8. ambience ( neat and clean and safe )