250 million years ago Antartica was a tropical paradise

[friendly fred]

Fucking liberals and their dishonest agenda to make global warming a man made problem that they want to use to control us all is totally obvious when you consider Antartica was a tropical paradise 250 million years ago, per this article.

https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/an...reptile-lizard

So if all the fucking ICE melts and swamps Houston, there is proof it happened before man was even here!

Liberals are some deceitful motherfuckers!!!

[Jackie S]

The author of this article must never have heard of Continental Shift.

250 million years ago, Antarctica was much farther north than at present time. The General consensus is it was on the lower portion of the super Continrnt Pangea, about where the Country of Paraguay is now.

[WTF]

friendly fred is probably trying to sell an iceberg in Antarctica as a Tropical Beach Paradise to some poor smuck.

[bamscram]

Just any reason to say liberals.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

250 million years ago, Antarctica was much farther north than at present time. The General consensus is it was on the lower portion of the super Continrnt Pangea, about where the Country of Paraguay is now.

Where was the "ice"?

At the time, animals were just crawling out from the apocalyptic period known as the end-Permian mass extinction, when sustained volcanic activity ended almost all the life on the planet.

... why can't man quit screwing with the volcanoes?

[themystic]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Where was the "ice"?



... why can't man quit screwing with the volcanoes?

Jackie don't forget LL knows everything about everything

[bb1961]

Originally Posted by themystic

Jackie don't forget LL knows everything about everything

I thought you had that title...

[themystic]

Originally Posted by bb1961

I thought you had that title...

I did but LL took it from me. Hes a college professor. Im not

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by friendly fred

Fucking liberals and their dishonest agenda to make global warming a man made problem that they want to use to control us all is totally obvious when you consider Antartica was a tropical paradise 250 million years ago, per this article.

https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/an...reptile-lizard

So if all the fucking ICE melts and swamps Houston, there is proof it happened before man was even here!

Liberals are some deceitful motherfuckers!!!

Fred, In geological terms, you're absolutely right, the world is a cold place right now. However, if you look at how long homo sapiens has been around, maybe 200,000 years, temperatures are high right now. Filtering out the spikes, they were only higher about 120,000 years ago. Over the last 100 years, there has been a rapid increase in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere, and increasing temperature, and the two are probably related.

The question is what you can and should do about it. This depends more on China and India than the USA, who will be the big emitters of carbon going forward. We could end up sacrificing a lot in the United States to cut CO2 emissions way down, and gain nothing in return.

I'd prefer some kind of gradual approach, maybe a reasonable tax on carbon if the money were used to do something like cut the income tax or pay off the debt. That's probably not going to happen though, politicians would instead spend the money raised on stupid things. I don't like subsidies and mandates, where you pay people lots of money to put in solar or wind projects, or where you outlaw gasoline engines after 2040 or whenever.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Where was the "ice"?

I would think that since there was no land mass where the South Pole is now, it would have been much like the Artic, a huge ice sheet covering the ocean water.

As the Continents shifted, the ice got push out of the way by what became the Antarctic land mass and melted as it was displaced to a warmer position on the planet.

Just guessing.

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by bamscram

Just any reason to say liberals.

Fuck liberals!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

I would think that since there was no land mass where the South Pole is now, it would have been much like the Artic, a huge ice sheet covering the ocean water.
Just guessing.

Jackie, Parts of North America, South America, Australia, Antarctica and oceans were where Antarctica is now, see

http://www.diercke.com/kartenansicht...674&kartennr=2

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by WTF

friendly fred is probably trying to sell an iceberg in Antarctica as a Tropical Beach Paradise to some poor smuck.

I don't have to sell shit because I offer the market value that people want. They come to me.

(Unlike builders of substandard housing who exploit illegal aliens)

[ICU 812]

Around 25,000 years ago, the last ice age was at its height. So much water was tied up in polar ice and alpine glaciers that the worlds sea level was over 400 feet lower than it is today. Asia and North Amwerica were joined by dry land.

Also joined by dry land was Australia, Tasmania and New Zeeland. The Great Barrier Reef did not exist, as it was dry land. North Africa had fresh water lakes bigger than the Great Lakes of North America (which also did not exist) and the Black Sea was a freshwater lake with no outlet to the Mediterranean Sea . . .which was much smaller due to the low sea level.


Then, for some reason, the ice melted and pretty quickly in geologic terms. As it is today, much of humankind lived near a coast. The sea level rose tens of meters in the living memory of the ancients, certainly in the generational memory of tribal leasders. No wonder so many civilizations have a tradition of a world encompassing flood.

A lot has changed so quickly without human intervention. More will change. Perhaps New York will become Venice -like. Perhaps I should buy soon-to-be beach front property south of Hudson Bay Canada.

[ICU 812]

Ok, now my thoughts on what might make a difference.

I got to ride in a Tessla Model 3. It was like riding inside an iPhone. I have been a green technology doubter in the past and still do not buy into the emotional semi-religious BS. zBut for the first time, I can see that an all electric car is and can be a viable mode of transportation. If they can bring it down to the level of a Chevy and upgrade the stamina to a pick-up truck , this tech will be a partial solution. Yeah, I know about charging, power plants and so on . . .

the other half of my new world tech would be fuel cells. If the same strides can be made there as has been done with battery storage, the world might be saved yet. Decentralized power genertin with minimal green hous emissions would clean up China and zIndia. It would facilitate raising the standard of living or quality of life in any currently under developed area.

late in the first half of the previous century, we developed both the nuclear power plant and the atom bomb in three years from a flat footed start from scratch. I have long been disappointed that there has been no real federal commitment to developing Fusion power or Fuel Cell technology. Along with solar and wind (both of which haave drawbacks) these technologies could make the earth survivable again.

Plus it would render any political or military involvement with any arab country moot.