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Old 07-21-2016, 03:25 PM   #1
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Default IP addresses - and why can't mods ban on them alone.

Was about to post this as a reply to another thread... but realized that thread had already been hijacked enough.

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Do you really want volunteer mods who are also part of this community to have complete access to the site's toolkit for running IP addresses at will ?
Hate to tell you this but running IP addresses is part of the basic mods tool kit... real problem is that most don't know what to do with those shinny buttons.

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Since this is a VBulletin board, don't Mod's see all users IP Addresses?

That's probably the only real way to see duplicates and that's hard to follow when they're seeing only numbers.
Yes your IP address is logged and posted on every post you make... we can't see it but its listed right along with your join date, location, number of post and ect.

The thing is that a lot of mods want to use IP addresses alone to prove multiple handles... it is not that easy when dealing with dynamic IP addresses.
They constantly change, especially if you are on your cell phone.
Lets say you use Verizon.
When you send a request for connection they will assign you a IP, it might be a different IP address everytime you post/log on.
So where I have this address now, an hour from now someone else will be assigned it from Verizon.
Must home Internet services (TW, Google, Ect) also use dynamic IP addressed, the difference is that they don't change as often... usually about once a month or so.

What that means is if you do a search for any one IP address then chances are that multiple users have logged in/posted with it... especially when using cells.

Now the ones that will get you caught are what is known as Static IP addresses... they usually assigned to businesses and do not change.
But hold on a minute, even if multiple members logged on under a static address, it still does not mean anything,
This lifestyle we enjoy using means we will be visiting many of the local hotels, motels and even a notel here are there.
And what are most of these places? that's right, they are businesses which have set (Static) IP addresses.
Therefore, EVERYONE that logs into the site via the hotels Internet service will show as having the same IP address.

One of the first IP checks I ran showed no less then 15 providers and 4 PA members having logged in from the same IP address... duh it was a hotels IP after all.

Now to my knowledge the more advanced tool kit is reserved for the Admin of the site... it not only shows the IP address but the MAC address of the computer/device.
MAC addresses can still be spoofed, but that takes a little bit more effort then the average member is willing to take.
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Old 07-21-2016, 06:33 PM   #2
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Yes the mac address, or machine address is transmitted.
Whether a "receiving" system is actually set up to record it is a common issue.
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Old 07-21-2016, 07:34 PM   #3
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I would bet that ECCIE does receive and record the Media Access Control addresses of every user that logs in.

PS... I always thought MAC was short for Machine Authorization Code until I just looked it up.
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Plus those who use VPN's when traveling and using hotel wifi to stay safe!
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Ha ha ....there is much more than IP address match to ban any one..
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Ha ha ....there is much more than IP address match to ban any one..
Yes, simply cause most IP addresses are not static (fixed).
Example a reset on tw or google may cause ip address to change.
Mac and machine phrases are used interchangeably
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Old 07-24-2016, 09:41 PM   #7
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...running IP addresses is part of the basic mods tool kit... real problem is that most don't know what to do with those shinny buttons.
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One of the first IP checks I ran showed no less then 15 providers and 4 PA members having logged in from the same IP address...
So, are you saying you never gave up your "basic mods tool kit" after your.... 3-day stint as a mod?
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:03 AM   #8
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Well, I know they track IP addresses.
I forgot I had changed my PW one day, and got the 15 min off time.
I also got an email that stated someone has tried to log my account 5 times from IP#-------
As far as a ban, I dont know how some people are still here period
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