Providers Requesting Selfie Pic

[dirty1234]

So much has changed since the good ole days of BP. Just came back from a long hiatus and noticed that quite a few providers are asking for selfies.

Personally, I think it's quite risky for hobbyists in certain situations to disclose such information.
- Pics in combination with communication trails are evidence for LE. Also for potential blackmail.
- There are forums, facebook, etc...where personal info can be shared and in turn can ruin a person's entire life with a single post...reputation, career, relationship, etc....

I've been in this game for a long time and stick by a few simple rules that have kept me safe and trouble free.
- Trust that gut feeling
- Walk away from bait and switch regardless
- No outcalls to my personal private residence (don't shit where you eat)
- Never share private info such as ID, pics, etc....
- No matter how good it can be, nothing is worth the possibility of losing everything.
- For me, I'm not paying for the act but for the discretion.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

[Analogkid]

You are CORRECT sir! (McMahon)

[Cherokeechief]

You Have My Vote !

[Lena Duvall]

Due to the new laws, some companions are opting to tighten screening, raise rates, and/or require deposits in hopes of minimizing their risks.

[g0lfnutt]

100% agree. No pussy is worth losing everything!

[Hot Summer]

News flash my safety is just as important as yours sweetheart ! If you don't wanna screen then get you a good reference to use .

[dirty1234]

Originally Posted by hot summer

News flash my safety is just as important as yours sweetheart ! If you don't wanna screen then get you a good reference to use .

You or any provider have the right to screen however you feel is in your best interest whether it's selfie pic, ID, social security #, bank statement, utility bill, etc....In return, we hobbyists have every right to choose whether to accept your screening requirements.

In terms of references, providers are clawing at each other like cats and dogs...doesn't quite work as well as their intended purpose. Besides, how are references going to work when no real names or real info have been obtained?

I'm only informing my fellow hobbyists the risk involve when personal information are disclosed in this not yet legal profession. It's my right to do so and one of the purpose of this forum, sharing info.

On eccie during sign-up, it's recommended to make usernames that cannot be trace.

Demanding personal info that can lead to potential blackmail, LE arrest, etc... from a stranger, possible whack job, or a budding demented provider is something that can shatter lives. Search for how many lives have been destroyed by social media (youtube, facebook, instagram, etc...) as well as the Ashley Madison hack.

I can only speak for myself, but I pay providers for discretion and to leave, not so much the act. If I feel the service wasn't up to par, not worth the effort, or total scam I can share my complete honest opinion with my fellow hobbyists without fear of retribution. Along that line, I can sleep soundly knowing that I won't be subjected to prosecution or any sort of threat from personal info disclosure.

I think in this discussion, we have to agree to disagree as we're on opposite sides of the table.

But one thing I do know...why should we as hobbyists take any unnecessary risks when we're paying customers and there's always another provider in line waiting for those Benjamins? I can honestly say that there's not a single woman on this planet that's worth losing a career, reputation, or relationship over.

With risks come rewards as in hundreds per hour.

[Hot Summer]

Agree to disagree is right and my safety will always be more important then money.
With risk comes rewards as in seeing us naked !

[dirty1234]

Originally Posted by hot summer

Agree to disagree is right and my safety will always be more important then money.
With risk comes rewards as in seeing us naked Hahaha . I hear wife's dont screen LMAO ! Xoxox I'm out

I can agree with your statement but the bolded part is uncalled for and downright disrespectful.

Many hobbyists are in relationships and you are in no position to make a mockery of anyone's relationship. Disrespecting someone's significant other are fighting words...tread carefully.

[Hot Summer]

seems you're only on here to stir up trouble sir. My opinion is just that so have a nice day !

[Ginger Doll]

Whenever possible, I employ complete discretion in the screening process. Meaning the information that I verify is all hobby-related... probably a fictitious first name, a client’s encounters with other reputable ladies, hobby phone number/email, etc.

But when that isn’t possible, I do require real world information that I can verify to ensure my safety. Safety is my top priority. And any gentleman who devalues my safety simply doesn’t respect me. That’s definitely not someone who I would ever want to place myself in a room alone with!

The screening process exists to protect the safety of everyone involved. It is the providers’ duty to screen to keep LE out of the equation. Any provider who would see you with no questions asked is someone who puts both herself & you at risk for an arrest… If it’s easy for you to get to her, it’s that easy for law-enforcement to get to her, as well.

Even if she is a known provider, if she doesn’t have safety measures in place to keep law-enforcement out, it’s feasible that she could have taken the wrong call and been arrested right before your appointment with her. In which case it would be law-enforcement holding her phone scheduling the appointment with you.

A provider who is diligent in her safety measures protects not only herself, but her clients as well.

It’s ironic that you’re concerned that your real world information would be disclosed by a provider. I’m pretty sure that all of your real world information would be posted in a mug shot online if you get into trouble due to lack of screening, and that’s a much more likely scenario.

Originally Posted by dirty1234

...why should we as hobbyists take any unnecessary risks when we're paying customers and there's always another provider in line waiting for those Benjamins?

Reputable, sought-after ladies usually have their own lines forming, and we do not need to risk ourselves for a disrespectful customer holding a few hundred dollars.

[Hot Summer]

Totally agree with ginger ! But It is helpful letting the ladies know you dont value their time or safety in this matter .

[Cherokeechief]

Originally Posted by Ginger Doll

Whenever possible, I employ complete discretion in the screening process. Meaning the information that I verify is all hobby-related... probably a fictitious first name, a client’s encounters with other reputable ladies, hobby phone number/email, etc.

But when that isn’t possible, I do require real world information that I can verify to ensure my safety. Safety is my top priority. And any gentleman who devalues my safety simply doesn’t respect me. That’s definitely not someone who I would ever want to place myself in a room alone with!

The screening process exists to protect the safety of everyone involved. It is the providers’ duty to screen to keep LE out of the equation. Any provider who would see you with no questions asked is someone who puts both herself & you at risk for an arrest… If it’s easy for you to get to her, it’s that easy for law-enforcement to get to her, as well.

Even if she is a known provider, if she doesn’t have safety measures in place to keep law-enforcement out, it’s feasible that she could have taken the wrong call and been arrested right before your appointment with her. In which case it would be law-enforcement holding her phone scheduling the appointment with you.

A provider who is diligent in her safety measures protects not only herself, but her clients as well.

It’s ironic that you’re concerned that your real world information would be disclosed by a provider. I’m pretty sure that all of your real world information would be posted in a mug shot online if you get into trouble due to lack of screening, and that’s a much more likely scenario.



Reputable, sought-after ladies usually have their own lines forming, and we do not need to risk ourselves for a disrespectful customer holding a few hundred dollars.

I Know Ginger and she is correct. I trust her with my INFO.

[Ginger Doll]

Originally Posted by Cherokeechief

I Know Ginger and she is correct. I trust her with my INFO.

Thanks, hon. Appreciate you!

[Ginger Doll]

I just skimmed your scary reviews. Then I noticed this post attempting to dictate provider rates. Wow, entitled much?

When you’re willing to provide screening information and increase to a more realistic hobby budget, your experiences should drastically improve. Until then, you can expect to receive exactly what you’ve already experienced.

You might want to start over with a new handle, though. Most quality ladies search post history as part of their screening process. Self-alerts are usually a deal-breaker.

Originally Posted by dirty1234

Just gauging what the opinions on no haggle pricing.

Fair market listing:
- Qv: 100
- Hh: 120
- Hr: 200

More, less, or just right?

If us hobbyists stick together and understand market demand/supply pricing, we won't have to succumb to exorbitant, inflated quotes.

EDIT: wrong section, would a mod kindly move this to the appropriate discussion section?