Israel

[Charley3]

What a mess. Who in their right mind thought it would be a good idea to drop a Jewish state right in the middle of the land of extremists?
But that’s water under the bridge, now we’re stuck defending Israel and living with the dangers of the extremists hating us because of it. My opinion 9/11 doesn’t happen if Israel never happened.

So at what point do we say to Israel they need to come up with a two state solution or we are done helping and backing you?

[bambino]

Two state solution? Do you want to give Hamas state status? It’s a complicated situation that nobody really understands. Especially the corrupt crooks in our government. At the end of the day, it will be settled one way or another. It won’t be peaceful under the clowns in the current administration.

[chizzy]

ahh that land was the home of the jews before the birth of jesus, before islam

about the 10th century BC (before christ)

and israel has offered many times to hamas and they keep turning it down. the fact remains the islamic terror groups wont be satisfied until every jew is killed.

[bambino]

“I believe that Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth if I don’t win.”

https://rumble.com/v5fm6n1-i-believe...-dont-win.html

[eyecu2]

Israeli's are NOT going to end this war with Hammas until they leave GAZA in my opinion. They were given an opportunity to serve and create a space for Palestinians, but they fucked that up. The Abraham Accords were about the following:

We, the undersigned, recognize the importance of maintaining and strengthening peace in the Middle East and around the world based on mutual understanding and coexistence, as well as respect for human dignity and freedom, including religious freedom.

We encourage efforts to promote interfaith and intercultural dialogue to advance a culture of peace among the three Abrahamic religions and all humanity.

We believe that the best way to address challenges is through cooperation and dialogue and that developing friendly relations among States advances the interests of lasting peace in the Middle East and around the world.

We seek tolerance and respect for every person in order to make this world a place where all can enjoy a life of dignity and hope, no matter their race, faith or ethnicity.

We support science, art, medicine, and commerce to inspire humankind, maximize human potential and bring nations closer together.

We seek to end radicalization and conflict to provide all children a better future.


Sounds ok-

BUT The radical's of Hamas, never read it, or believed in it, and actually the entire accord was written by outsiders of Israel and other states; sure it's a wish list, but clearly never intended to be followed as anything more than a pacifier.

Anyone who claims it was more than a sham document has their head directly up their Keester. If it was so- there would be lots of complaints from Bahrain and UAE, on what Iran and Hamas have done- and of course the, HEAD for an eye military of the Israeli's didn't help with the constant bombardment of the area. They should have just turned off all the news sources, and marched through and gathered, deported, or acted with extreme prejudice to those who didn't leave of their own volition. Hammas- FAFO- And because Israel needs us to be a partner with them, they have shit the bed, and want us to help clean up the mess.


(ON a side note- the Ex Potus DJT, said some baloney about putting an IRON dome over top of the USA. He clearly has no concept of both the cost and size difference of a tiny strip in the middle east to covering an entire continent, anymore than he knows any concept of healthcare.)

THe only way Israel gets out of this, is either letting Hamas stay in GAZA or taking this thing up 15 notches. Or voting out Bibi Netanyahu

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by bambino

Two state solution? Do you want to give Hamas state status? It’s a complicated situation that nobody really understands. Especially the corrupt crooks in our government. At the end of the day, it will be settled one way or another. It won’t be peaceful under the clowns in the current administration.

It will never be settled. There is no way the Palestinians will ever stop. You can’t wipe them out, they own nothing.
It was a mistake from the beginning. Agree, a Hamas state will most likely be a mistake but there aren’t good choices here. I’d try a two state solution with a lot of financial backing and hope they are all tired of war.

[Charley3]

Originally Posted by bambino

“I believe that Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth if I don’t win.”

https://rumble.com/v5fm6n1-i-believe...-dont-win.html

If Trump actually said that it adds to his thousands of stupid things to say.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by Charley3

If Trump actually said that it adds to his thousands of stupid things to say.

... What Trump means is that Kamala and her handlers
will simply let Hamas destroy Israel.

Same-way they let the Anit-Israel TERROR to persist
on the American university campuses. ...

#### Salty

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... What Trump means is that Kamala and her handlers
will simply let Hamas destroy Israel.

Same-way they let the Anit-Israel TERROR to persist
on the American university campuses. ...

#### Salty

Or, stuff a jet with 1.6 billion dollars and drop it off in Iran. Like ODummer. Trump sanctioned Iran. They were going broke. They couldn’t fund their terrorist network.

[bambino]

WHAT ARE HEZBOLLAH'S OPTIONS?
Israel has its boot on Hezbollah’s neck. The pressure is unrelenting, and Israel is presenting Iran/Nasrallah with 3 options:

1. Agree to UN resolution 1701, a humiliating surrender and a retreat beyond the Litani River.
2. Continue absorbing massive damage to its military capabilities without being able to respond meaningfully.
3. Taking the bait and doing something that will give Israel the legitimacy to start a full-scale war.

Hezbollah does not have unlimited time to choose. I assess that Israel will continue to escalate dramatically until the High Holidays are over and the elections in the US (Nov 5). If nothing changes from Hezbollah until then, Israel will initiate a full-scale war regardless of what anyone else wants.

[bambino]

The Israeli Air Force has reportedly dropped one of the largest-caliber bombs in its arsenal, a GBU-28 bunker buster, on a target in Lebanon.