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Old 11-21-2024, 10:17 AM   #16
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Question: Say someone took a sign and displayed it by the road nearby hotels saying "Beware: Possible Police Sting Operations." Staying on the public sidewalk and not going into any business private property, would this be protected free speech? Or possible obstruction?
Obstruction. It's just like flashing your high beams at another car warning them of a speed trap. If another cop sees you do that, you can be ticketed for Obstruction.
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Old 11-22-2024, 11:17 AM   #17
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I know you are correct I know a few as well. But I have been there done that also and in most government jobs your eased out if not outright released. Its a bad deal.
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Old 11-22-2024, 12:57 PM   #18
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Question: Say someone took a sign and displayed it by the road nearby hotels saying "Beware: Possible Police Sting Operations." Staying on the public sidewalk and not going into any business private property, would this be protected free speech? Or possible obstruction?
They would probably enact the ruling of Schenck Vs. US (1919) that the act of the speech is not illegal, but the impact of the speech on the safety of people. (Don't scream fire in a crowded place law)
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Old 11-22-2024, 01:05 PM   #19
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They both can kiss their jobs and retirements good bye and they will have hell getting a decent job in the future with all the background....
This isn't necessarily true. There's factors that play into it. What job did you have? How good is your attorney? Does your job have a union? These things can keep you on your job or get your job back.
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The statement, "How good is your attorney?" is the most appropriate in this question. State and federal law does make your pension void if convicted of a felony. If the attorney can plea down to misdemeanor then you are good. Ethics law also states the infraction must have a direct impact on your job role. Only issue would be if they tried to expense their transactions, as impacting personal life does not apply. Because of their roles, a background check showing misdemeanors could prevent them from obtaining necessary security clearances, which would impact their ability to do their job. If you can't perform your job tasks, AND don't accept reassignment to a role that doesn't require clearance, then you can be released for your duty as a government employee.
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Old 11-22-2024, 05:05 PM   #20
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Everyone is fine as long as the lawyer shouts “did you order the code red!!??”
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