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Old 02-03-2012, 08:23 AM   #1
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Exclamation Unemployment Falls

The unemployment rate has fallen to 8.3% which is the lowest it has been in 3 years.

. . . Do the people who hate President Obama still doubt that he is taking the country in the right direction?







http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...c=al_comboNE_b
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:33 AM   #2
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Percent of people participating in the work force falls to 30 year low as 1.2M fall out of even looking for work.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS11300000

Spin away. . . far away.
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:36 AM   #3
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As usual, you are so full of shit. Unemployment is defined as those who are looking for work but can't find a job. When you give up looking for work, you are no longer unemployed, even though you don't have a job.

The reason the unemployment rate is going down is because more people have given up looking for work, not because the economy (speeding along at 1% growth) is creating jobs.

Obviously, you can't handle the truth, despite your attractive mulit-colored and indented answers.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/record...-rate-tumbles-
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:38 AM   #4
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Default OBAMA'S ECONOMIC APPROVAL RATING JUST 36%

It's a mis-leading number and most Americans know it;

"In another indication of the difficulty President Obama's reelection campaign faces, only 36 percent of likely voters grade the administration's handling of the economy at good or excellent, according to a new Rasmussen poll."

http://newsok.com/obamas-economic-ap...le/feed/343359
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Old 02-03-2012, 08:53 AM   #5
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You miss the point, WW. The more the administration mishandles the economy, the more people get discouraged and quit looking for work. The more people who quit looking for work means the unemployment rate goes down, and others think the economy is doing well. At the same time, those who are discouraged and quit looking for work, will look for government support. The more dependent on government they become, the more likely it is they will vote Democrat.

So, as the UE rate declines, more will vote Democrat.
As the number of discouraged workers increases, more will vote Democrat.

Does anyone see a plan here?
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:00 AM   #6
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The scheme isn't very hidden........Obama wants the American system to decay so by extension his Alinsky brothers can implement their nanny stateism.

Lefties hold 2 guiding principals on America:

1. Americans are stupid and we need government bureaurcrats to make our decisions.

2. America is a source of evil in the world and it's economy and cultural instituitons need radical reform.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:04 AM   #7
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Lol COG, you're right. This works for Obama.
But if unemployment goes up in the next months, he'll say: that's because more people are coming back to the labor market.
So unemployment up or down, it both works fine for Obama. It's just how you bring it.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:07 AM   #8
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The President is, I think, the worst President in my lifetime for sure, possibly in history. At the same time, he is one of the most brilliant politicians of our time. Unemployment is now structured so he can't lose an argument on it. The man is a genius.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:11 AM   #9
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There is nothing genius about Obama.............except his artful ability to lie and decieve.

If the future unemployment numbers go up; Obama will try to spin it as a good sign...but that won't work in Colorado, Ohio, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Virginia, and a few key swing states......

The lefties in California, NY, and such places will buy into it....but it won't work in the electoral swing states.

Unemployment numbers going up; no matter what the reason, would be a very very bad trend for Obama !

WR is blowing smoke by stating otherwise.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:06 AM   #10
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There is nothing genius about Obama.............except his artful ability to lie and decieve.
That's what I was talking about.

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Old 02-03-2012, 10:08 AM   #11
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Exclamation Predictable

Some of you jokers are very predictable.

Even when good news is staring at you in the face, you discount it as meaningless, but still hasten to amplify minor things you don't like into mountains of wrong.

President Obama is the best president this country has been fortunate enough to have in generations, but still many cannot see that.

It must be a heavy burden for a President to lead the country and want to do what is best for the country as a whole while there are people who can only talk trash about him regardless of how hard he works for the country.

Try as I may, I just don't understand how some of you guys think or if you think at all is there something in your heads resembling a brain or is it just a prerecorded tape that you just hit "play" when you speak?

Some of you entrenched souls seem to have your same tired
and canned old responses ready to trot out regardless of what reality shows you.




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Old 02-03-2012, 10:27 AM   #12
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You just choose to ignore the facts. That is one right we have that hasn't been abolished yet. However, I expect ignoring the facts will soon become a requirement, rather than an option.

Yeah, it's hard to see how great Obama has been.

He lied about getting us out of the wars within a year
He lied about no ground troops in Libya
He lied about having the most transparent government in history
He is lying about Fast and Furious
He is trying to get vitamins banned
HE WANTS TO DETAIN AMERICAN CITIZENS ON AMERICAN SOIL INDEFINITELY WITHOUT HABEAS CORPUS
He has strengthened the Patriot Act
He has funnelled millions of tax dollars to political cronies
He has proposed ONE budget to congress, which was defeated UNANIMOUSLY
He is lying about the real unemployment rate, which is closer to 11%
He will nearly DOUBLE the national debt at the end of his first term, after lying about returning fiscal responsibility to the White House
He has assumed a controlling interest in a major company, General Motors
He apologizes for the United States when he travels abroad
He is the FIRST President to preside over a downgrade of our credit rating
He may become the FIRST President to preside over an economy which will become the #2 economy in the world
He has the worst record of economic growth since they began keeping records.
His idea of the "evil rich" starts at those who make $250K per year
He has the most corrupt Justice Department in history
His Vice President makes Dan Quayle look like the President of Mensa
He has turned over the administration of health care for all Americans to the IRS

And this is just a partial list.

Facts working in favor of President Obama

Uh, He killed Bin Laden (maybe)

FG, you live in a fairy tale land. It must be nice there. But keep on ignoring the facts. If it makes you happy.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:00 AM   #13
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Private sector added 250000 new jobs in Jan They have added more this last year while gov jobs have fallen.Always said the biggest difference between repubs and dems Repub can find something bad in good news while a dem can find something good in bad news.For all of you who have something bad to say about me FUCK YOU strong message to follow.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:47 AM   #14
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The unemployment rate has fallen to 8.3% which is the lowest it has been in 3 years.

. . . Do the people who hate President Obama still doubt that he is taking the country in the right direction?







http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...c=al_comboNE_b
One must read the data and not follow the media hype.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

In January, 2.8 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, essentially unchanged from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force,
wanted and were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12 months.

They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey. (See table A-16.)

Among the marginally attached, there were 1.1 million discouraged workers in January, little different from a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally adjusted.)
Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work because they believe no jobs are available for them.


Just my opinion but I doubt the executive secretary or teacher who lost their job is seeking employment at an establishment in your post
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Deny the facts all you want; it is the definition of being an Obamazombie.........

Here again are the real unemployment facts as laid out by the CBO.......

Latest Congressional Budget Outlook For 2012-2022 Released, Says Real Unemployment Rate Is 10%

The unemployment rate would be even higher than it is now had participation in the labor force not declined as much as it has over the past few years. The rate of participation in the labor force fell from 66 percent in 2007 to an average of 64 percent in the second half of 2011, an unusually large decline over so short a time.
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