To Trumpists: What Promises did he Keep?

[CamWizard96]

Beware, I will be fact-checking your claims too.

As a registered independent who is politically center-right, I cannot understand the argument that "Trump kept his promises." Trump broke 53% of his campaign promises from 2016 during his first term. For context, Obama only broke 23% of his promises (a major sticking point), Biden only 3%. I don't want to hear "lIbErAl mEdIa" BS, I want to see hard truths substantiated by facts as to which promises he kept, when, and how it benefits Americans. No witch hunting or name-calling necessary.

Stand by your claims if you are so fervent in defending this guy.

[lustylad]

Lol - So you wanna claim Biden kept 97% of his promises? That's a hoot! Got a link listing 'em all?

Hmm... let's see...

Do you mean Joey kept his promise to throw open our borders to millions of illegals, drugs and Venezuelan gang members?

Do you mean he kept his promise to shut down Anwar, the Keystone XL pipeline and other projects badly needed for US energy security?

Do you mean he kept his promise to open the federal spending floodgates to trillions of dollars in wasteful giveaways and so-called Green New Deal boondoggles, thereby goosing inflation to a 40-year high and hurting all Americans by stripping away the purchasing power of our hard-earned wages?

Do you mean he kept his promise to coddle BLM and demonize law enforcement, causing crime to explode in our major cities?

Do you mean he kept his promise to ruin women's sports by letting biological men compete in them?

Do you mean he kept his promise to withdraw disastrously from Afghanistan?

Do you mean he kept his promise to deter Putin from threatening or invading Russia's neighbors?

Do you mean he kept his promise to release tens of billions of dollars to Iran, enabling the mullahs to accelerate their nuke program and fund proxy wars throughout the Middle East?

Do you mean he kept his promise to forgive hundreds of billions in student loan debts, shifting the repayment burden onto the backs of taxpayers?

Do you mean he kept his promise to staff his administration with incompetent diversity hires and tranny freaks like Sam Brinton and Rachel Levine?

Do you mean he kept his promise not to run for a second term, after inflicting all of this incalculable damage on our country?

Are THOSE some of the promises you claim Joey kept 97% of?

Do you still wanna defend the senile, incompetent idiot's record? And the senile, incompetent idiot's even more incompetent protégé Kamala Harris?

God help us!!

[bambino]

All of them.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by bambino

All of them.

Yeah, Mexico really paid for that wall

[tommy156]

The only promise he kept was giving rich people tax cuts. That's literally the only one. The rest were fantastical bullshit that gullible clowns fell for.

Make Mexico pay for the wall? Nope.
Repeal and replace Obamacare? Nope.
Bring coal jobs back? Nope.
Keep auto plants from shutting down? Nope.
Faithfully uphold the Constitution? Hell to the Nope.

[CamWizard96]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Lol - So you wanna claim Biden kept 97% of his promises? That's a hoot! Got a link listing 'em all?

Hmm... let's see...

Do you mean Joey kept his promise to throw open our borders to millions of illegals, drugs and Venezuelan gang members?

Do you mean he kept his promise to shut down Anwar, the Keystone XL pipeline and other projects badly needed for US energy security?

Do you mean he kept his promise to open the federal spending floodgates to trillions of dollars in wasteful giveaways and so-called Green New Deal boondoggles, thereby goosing inflation to a 40-year high and hurting all Americans by stripping away the purchasing power of our hard-earned wages?

Do you mean he kept his promise to coddle BLM and demonize law enforcement, causing crime to explode in our major cities?

Do you mean he kept his promise to ruin women's sports by letting biological men compete in them?

Do you mean he kept his promise to withdraw disastrously from Afghanistan?

Do you mean he kept his promise to deter Putin from threatening or invading Russia's neighbors?

Do you mean he kept his promise to release tens of billions of dollars to Iran, enabling the mullahs to accelerate their nuke program and fund proxy wars throughout the Middle East?

Do you mean he kept his promise to forgive hundreds of billions in student loan debts, shifting the repayment burden onto the backs of taxpayers?

Do you mean he kept his promise to staff his administration with incompetent diversity hires and tranny freaks like Sam Brinton and Rachel Levine?

Do you mean he kept his promise not to run for a second term, after inflicting all of this incalculable damage on our country?

Are THOSE some of the promises you claim Joey kept 97% of?

Do you still wanna defend the senile, incompetent idiot's record? And the senile, incompetent idiot's even more incompetent protégé Kamala Harris?

God help us!!

You did not list a single promise that Trump kept, and instead attempted to deflect to Biden. I never once argued or refuted that Biden is not extremely left-wing. This is regarding Trump. Again, stick to the topic.

Originally Posted by bambino

All of them.

You don't even attempt to answer, prolly cause you don't care to. If you didn't care, then why did you reply at all?

[lustylad]

Your OP topic is promises allegedly kept or broken by 3 Presidents - Obama, Trump and Biden.

Still waiting for your link showing where your percentages come from. How do you expect to have an intelligent discussion otherwise?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Yeah, Mexico really paid for that wall

They put 20,000 soldiers on their southern border to stop the caravans entering Mexico. They paid for it. Mexico also agreed to Trumps stay in Mexico policy.

Cya Mr Gristle. Thanks for playing

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by bambino

They put 20,000 soldiers on their southern border to stop the caravans entering Mexico. They paid for it. Mexico also agreed to Trumps stay in Mexico policy.

Cya Mr Gristle. Thanks for playing

Mexico didn't pay one fucking peso for any border wall. trump only kept ONE promise - giving rich people tax cuts. As for some of the others that a bunch of gullible clowns fell for:

Make Mexico pay for the wall?
Repeal and replace Obamacare?
Bring coal jobs back?
Keep auto plants from shutting down?
Faithfully uphold the Constitution?

The answer to all of the above is: HELL NO HE DIDN'T

[lustylad]

Is there an echo chamber in this thread?

[CamWizard96]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Your OP topic is promises allegedly kept or broken by 3 Presidents - Obama, Trump and Biden.

Still waiting for your link showing where your percentages come from. How do you expect to have an intelligent discussion otherwise?

I used PolitiFact. I'm sure you'll find some way to call it "liberal" though.

I also attempted to look up Dubya and Billiam's records, but those are too far back.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by CamWizard96

I used PolitiFact. I'm sure you'll find some way to call it "liberal" though.

I also attempted to look up Dubya and Billiam's records, but those are too far back.

PolitiFact IS liberal.

Look... I could see all kinds of likely methodological issues even before knowing the source. What constitutes a "promise"? Who picks them for each President? How are they selected? Which ones do you include and which ones do you omit? How do you measure whether a promise is "kept" or "broken"? What if it is partly kept and partly blocked by the political opposition or the courts?

Etc. etc.

So yeah, even without scouring the article carefully (still no link) I can see plenty of ways someone might inject bias into the sample and data results.

[CamWizard96]

To you lusty, anything that doesn't call Trump a god is "liberal". You do not argue in good faith due to your bias.

Also, since you somehow cannot google PolitiFact (and your baseless claims that it's "liberal" you need to prove that), I'll link to the site.

Now prove it's biased. I'm waiting.

And you still haven't answered the question. Your bias is showing badly.

They put 20,000 soldiers on their southern border to stop the caravans entering Mexico. They paid for it. Mexico also agreed to Trumps stay in Mexico policy.
Trump said he'd build a wall and that Mexico would pay for it. It didn't happen. You didn't answer the question. So you're wrong. Give me a promise he kept please.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by CamWizard96

To you lusty, anything that doesn't call Trump a god is "liberal". You do not argue in good faith due to your bias.

Well sure, I have my biases but that doesn't make my arguments any less valid than yours. Or are we supposed to believe everyone else is biased except for you and PolitiFact? In case you didn't notice, your OP drips with bias.

Besides, you've completely misdiagnosed the nature of my bias. I'm not pro-trump. I just like to make fun of all the people who are afflicted by TDS. They need to look in the mirror and see how irrational Trump has made them. I merely point out their absurdities as a public service.

Ever read Salena Zita? She's a journalist who has been following Trump from Day 1. Here's a famous quote from an article she wrote in the (far-left) Atlantic magazine back in 2016, when libs were still trying to grapple with the Trump phenomenon:

“The press takes him literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally.”

You might want to chew on that for a while.

While your pals at PolitiFact are screaming "Gotcha, liar! Mexico never paid for any border wall!" the folks who are likely to vote for Trump come Nov. 5 are thinking to themselves - "So what? he sure as hell did a better job in securing our border than the incompetent nincompoop who succeeded him!"

[HDGristle]

Of course your biases make your opinions less valid than mine