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Old 11-18-2014, 06:15 PM   #1
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aight, so i thought this would be good for some of you newer guys who need to improve your backpage game or fine tune your early warning system. it's an essential skill in the 806, bros.

it goes something like this:

in my regular scanning of bp the other day i see this:

http://amarillo.backpage.com/FemaleE...onship/8165329



it's a brand new ad, and i normally let them percolate awhile before even thinking of a call, but i was bored, so i did a google image search. the only thing that popped up was a recent ad from the san luis obispo bp. i thought, ok, that's reasonable if she's visiting family (remember this part), but if that's the case, how does she have an 806 number? probably a burn phone, nothing wrong with that.

so i text. no reply for several days, so i respond to the email link in the ad using my junk mail address. NEVER respond to one using your good address.

later that night i get this:

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Hey there thanks for responding to my Ad in Amarillo!
I'm Brenda, and hi there to you also!!!! id love to meet with you soon!
My place is located off of 3rd Ave near the Amarillo Country Club, that's where I'm meeting for incall, but I outcall too!
Anyway I'd love to set something up with you, so email me back and I'll be happy to go over my terms/services and how this works so we can get something setup ok! I'm sorry but I don't give out my personal cell # to new guys right away, so email will have to work for now. Ive attached a few pics for you, hope you like them!!
along with these:



i'm like, alright, this is worth pursuing, even though the "i'll be happy to go over my terms/services and how this works" bit was making my spidey sense tingle. so i reply:

"well, heeello!!

email is fine, and i'm impressed you actually responded. THAT'S unusual. i texted you several days ago from a [XXX] number and was about to decide i wouldn't hear back.

your photos are lovely - and i'm a photographer so i should know!

tell me more!"


i also included a photo and my email has my name attached to it. now, you're like "what???" i wouldn't neccesarily advise this for anybody else, but i'm single with nobody to answer to and i just don't give a fuck. she doesn't know who i am in here....just another name, and IF she's legit then we're already on a good footing. she can trust me because we both have skin in the game. besides, i wanted to draw her out.

her reply:

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hey there [xxxxxxx], great to hear back from you so soon!!! yes of course i respond to all my emails, thats why i posted my ad on backpage lol!!! do most girls not, or what?? i didnt get your text because thats a throw away phone and it had run out of service, so im glad you emailed. im glad you liked my pics, thanks, and heres a few more for you!! maybe you can take pics of me?? let me tell you how this works so we can meet in person, I offer Full Incall/Outcall services, and its 200.00 for every hour, credit cards are also accepted for payment too. because we've never met I do require you to become my personal client before we meet for legal and safety reasons. I don't feel safe with just meeting a stranger because Backpage and Adult Search can be so sketchy when it comes to guys. its simply just not safe for any of us escorts to meet random guys from these sites!! once youre registered as my official client youll have to visit with me in my live chat room, so we can get more comfortable with each other before we meet. I don't make exceptions here because of my past experiences so I hope you understand and respect my need to feel safe and secure...are you ok with my terms and moving forward?
and these:



at this point i know the con is in play. notice how she says all the right things, then hits me with the verification bit? notice the gradual unveiling in the photos? she thinks i'm on the hook and she's reeling me in.....

but i want to see where this leads. it's now a game.

as i'm planning my next move, she hits me again:

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oh and i forgot to mention.....i loved you pic!!!! very handsome, love the [xxxxx] with the [xxxxxxx]....very sexy!!! =)
damn. this girl (if "she" is one) is good!

me, with a test thrown in:

"heh. i'm sure you say that to all the boys.

and i totally get it about safety, especially when visiting a new town (san luis obispo is probably a LOT warmer, eh?).

you seem pretty together...how come you don't use eccie? much safer and better clients!

so...yeah.....what's next?"


she doesn't blink. in fact she sees my geographical gambit, and raises me a scrape with the law, a baby daughter, AND child protective services. this girl has ice water running through her cold hooker heart!

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lol noooo most guys are not cute at all, and i tell it how it is!!! hehe!!!! and yes cali is much much nicer!!!!! have you been there?? and no i dont like to use eccie, or review sites, last time I had reviews posted they were on TER about a year an a 1/2 ago. I ended up meeting a client that was a registered user on that site who turned out to be an undercover cop. The TER post was used as solid evidence against me when I went to court, it was a nightmare. FYI cops use the review boards to set people up all the time, shysty I know first hand! just so you know, i strictly only meet with registered clients for legal and safety reasons, it helps assure me that youre safe and serious, so I feel comfortable meeting in person for the first time! i just have to be careful with who im meeting please understand, im a single mother raising a baby girl and I wont risk losing her! i cant risk going to jail, or something bad happening to me, because my daughter would be taken by CPS in a heartbeat!
who wouldn't be touched by such a genuine story, bros?

me, but first she presses her hand. this is where i'd say she started overplaying it, actually:

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so are you ready to register will so we can get things going???
so i play along some more:

"aight. tell me what to do.

you're HOT and i don't get that a lot out here. i was [xxxxxxxxxxxx] some years ago and i don't date....just live the life of a monk at my family's ranch."

she goes all in:

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really a monk life, you have to tell me about that in my chat ok!! its really very simple ok, youre just creating a FREE username, then seeing me in my Live Chat for 15-20 minutes so we can get to know each other so im comfortable with meeting you in person. once youre on the site you do have to load just 50 credits which is only $45 to your account wallet so you can see me, and i deduct that off of our meeting rate. after that we can start talking by phone and you dont ever have to log in to the site again ok.

I promise you well have unforgettable times together! heres my direct link to get you registered so we can get things going ok! http://tinyurl.com/clientel Once you open that link youll be at the registration, Under -Login Info- create a new username and password, and enter a vaild email, last you can choose the Free VIP package...once youre all setup on the site email me back with your username before you do anything else, then ill tell you what to do next!
FUCK YEAH, bros!! i'm going to be a VIP and for only $45.

and now that she's walked so willingly into MY trap, i show her my aces over queens:

"well, i have to say, this is well crafted. you said all the right things, your pics don't set off any alarms on google image search....even an experienced hand might fall for this, especially with the gradual unveiling of the hot girl in the pics. even though i knew the deal from email #2 and was really just curious to see where the rabbit trail lead, there's always that HOPE because, well...we're dudes, after all.

do a lot of guys fall for it?"



and then comes the outrage:

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excuse me???? what are you trying to say?? fall for what...
but i'm feeling good natured, so...

"oh, come on now girl....don't be annoyed. i'm complimenting you on a job well done.

but, there's no way i'm throwing down any money before i see a girl face-to-face. i don't even make appointments without a phone conversation, because i know the game. i was born at night, but not last night, so as much as i'd love for you to be this girl, i hope you'll forgive my skepticism.

you have to know that these deals are much discussed on boards like eccie, right?"


to her credit, she hangs on:

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ive never burnt any of my clients in any way....i dont do business that way and its just wrong! im not sure what happened to you in the past, but i do know that i had nothing to do with what happened, and its just wrong of you to judge me based on it! i strongly believe in karma so i always find myself staying honest and loyal to my clients, as i expect the same in return! i have too many bills to pay for to screw anyone over with the site, so of course i want to meet and make some real money and meet someone new at the same time!
i suggested she send me a photo of her holding a sign that says "hi, [xxxxxxx}, i swear i'm real!!"

oddly, she never replied.

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Old 11-18-2014, 06:43 PM   #2
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I love it! Thanks for taking the time to post the detail.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:31 PM   #3
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I wonder how many guys actually fall for that! I did webcamming for a couple years before I ever escorted, and I don't think I could even get those guys to sign up for something like that. It just sounds shady from the get go.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:45 PM   #4
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Still new to all this stuff, just now trying to pick up the hobby, thanks for the info!
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Old 11-18-2014, 08:01 PM   #5
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I have gone down that path as well, not so far as JD did, I usually stopped at the first mention of webcam. A different scam I played along with for a while had me escorting the young lady to a swingers party at the Ambassador, all I had to do was reserve a room for us after the party. They didn't get my credit card, but I got some interesting pictures.
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Old 11-18-2014, 09:58 PM   #6
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cool! i wasn't sure how this would be received.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:52 PM   #7
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Good post John Deere ! Before eccie i used to go with backpage girls alot , im glad i never got robed or scamed. Now searching this site i've found alot of good tips and the girls on here have reviews and comments by members that have actually seen them.
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Old 11-18-2014, 11:55 PM   #8
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Well JD, I don't even go that far to make contact. I just research the pictures, and phone numbers.

http://lubbock.backpage.com/FemaleEs...056053/8190655

I saw this ad for Asian female. Google Image says the pics are stolen. It get more intel from the phone number search. It matches ads from Virginia up to New York.
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:55 AM   #9
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Nice JD but the real question is what if she is REAL?????
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Old 11-19-2014, 08:46 AM   #10
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tex, that's the obvious strategy. those are table stakes. the question is, what do you do when you see one who's pictures don't set off any alarms. if this girl's photos had popped up in random locations as they so often do, i wouldn't have bothered.

if you read between the lines, what you should understand is that the people running the scams are on to the fact that we use things like google image search. this is the second one of these i've seen lately where the images seemed legit.
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Old 11-19-2014, 09:24 AM   #11
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Thx John Deer

also do not fall for the Green Card scam, If they do not take cash forget them!
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Old 11-19-2014, 11:18 AM   #12
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This really should be a sticky. I'm sure it would help a lot people out especially newbies.
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:16 PM   #13
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Solid intel, tks JD
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Old 11-19-2014, 12:21 PM   #14
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Thanks for the heads up and help
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:46 PM   #15
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dem ninja skillzzzz lol
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