Newbie discrimination

[Pokey1965]

I just want to know the reason for not being newbie friendly. Is there just one reason or many? This is probably a lame question, so be nice.

[VegasJen]

Safety mostly... With no hobby history to reference, there is no way to gage if you are usually well mannered/polite, reliable, etc. Screening is absolutely important in this business. There will never be any guarantees, but knowing a persons prior behavior patterns does offer a bit of comfort at least. If you were on time, didn't haggle, clean and pleasant with the last few women you saw, chances are, that is what the next lady can expect as well... If you were rude, violent, LE or short changed the prior ladies, we know to run for the hills. So with no references, its a crap shoot. Most experienced ladies aren't willing to take that kind of a gamble with their safety. There are quite a few ladies who do have protocol for newbies, though. You just need to be willing to forego a bit of your own privacy and give up some RW info for screening in lieu of a reference/review history. At least until you have a few references under your belt.

[Pokey1965]

I'm good with that. There were a few things you said I hadn't thought about, but generally about what I figured. I didn't know if there was a different reason listed in the provider handbook.

I think we can call this one and done. Thanks for playing.

[pyramider]

She was a lot nicer than most ... Either make the Search tab your friend or keep downloading porn.

[joesmo888]

there are plenty of newbie providers on here. start out there, once you bag 20 or 30 of them then now you ready for the next echelon of providers.

[Solitaire]

Everything VJ said above is true, and if I might add, "newbie friendly" might be a bit of a misnomer. It means we will give you the time of day, enough to properly screen, not necessarily that we will be all that "friendly" about it. We are not friends until we become friends.

Majority of gents that have presented themselves to me as "newbies" have been LE, men who have been previously blacklisted, men who have been previously arrested, men who for various other reasons cannot pass screening, men using another man's info for screening - only a handful have been actual bonafide newbs.

[Ed Highlight]

Originally Posted by Pokey1965

.... This is probably a lame question, so be nice.

There may be one one reason OR there may be multiple reasons. The ladies get to choose the guys they want to see - for whatever reason. Just like the guys get to choose the ladies THEY want to see. If for some reason, neither is comfortable with the other, each will have to see someone else. That's the way this works.....everywhere with everyone!

[Pokey1965]

So does having a P411 account benefit a newbie, since they are already pre-screened? I understand the ladies can still pick and choose, but does it become less of an issue with providers if newbies have an active account? (Assuming no previous bans or blacklists).

[VegasJen]

That is a point in anyone's favor. We ladies have to be screened to be on there as well, so it really helps both ways. But still, it is onlu a factor in your favor, not a golden ticket.

[VIPRaniLane]

It's not a lame question, at all

I've found that ladies who are most concerned about not seeing newbies also screen via references. The lack of prior history that is able to verified by other providers is something many prefer to avoid. I personally don't request or accept references (I use alternate verification methods) and actually love newbies. They are my favorite type of clients, next to those who don't post reviews

A P411 account can be a great help. Many ladies will see a P411 client with okays with no add'l screening. Others ask for more info. FYI, when joining P411, you agree that providers may ask you for further info when scheduling an appt (it's in the terms). Find a lady whose screening matches what you're willing to provide.

Good Luck!

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by Pokey1965

So does having a P411 account benefit a newbie, since they are already pre-screened? I understand the ladies can still pick and choose, but does it become less of an issue with providers if newbies have an active account? (Assuming no previous bans or blacklists).

Nope if you don't have ok's your still a newbie

[Pokey1965]

Thanks for all the replies. I thought I read everything I needed to know, but the additional posts brings something else to think about and it's been enlightening. I'd like to hear from others that can add to the knowledge base.

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by Pokey1965

Thanks for all the replies. I thought I read everything I needed to know, but the additional posts brings something else to think about and it's been enlightening. I'd like to hear from others that can add to the knowledge base.

Holy Fucking Tebow Does It Really Matter Just Find A Newbie Friendly Provider & Be Done With It

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Dorthy_Monroe

Holy Fucking Tebow Does It Really Matter Just Find A Newbie Friendly Provider & Be Done With It

No need to be rude. We were all new at one time.

[Guest021217]

Originally Posted by Old-T

No need to be rude. We were all new at one time.

He has been on here for 2 years so he isnt NEW