NATO Reports That Biden Has Been Secretly Pressuring Ukraine To Settle With Putin

[Jackie S]

This is unreal.
Just because the Biden Family Cartel is loosing money in both Russia and Ukraine does not give that stupid old bastard the right to compel the Ukrainians to settled with the War Criminal Putin.

Give them all they need to kill as many Russians as possible.

That is ALL Biden needs to concentrate on.

But then, that senile old piece of shit probably can’t remember what he did yesterday.

[texassapper]

I disagree... Ukraine is not NATO... the reason for the conflict is that publicly we talked up Ukraine joining NATO but privately were telling Zelinsky not a chance... pushing NATO to Russian borders was a mistake.

We should know better after 20 years of endless war to keep our nose out of other folks fight.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Commence the cover up operation! Old Cabbage Head probably figures the business and banking records are already destroyed, though he is forgetting the dumpster fire that is the Hunter Biden laptop - now confirmed by the NYT, Bobulinski and WSJ. Either that or he has figured out how to purchase Rubles on the market with our tax dollars to buy oil from Putin.

Win, lose or draw, Putin is pretty well on his way to kill the Petro-Dollar. China and the Saudis are OK with that and the whole of the EU is stuck with that..

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Has anyone considered that Ukraine could end the insanity in 2 seconds flat with a surrender or capitulation with a settlement agreement? Not that Putin would necessarily drop the demise of the Petro-Dollar or anything. Remember, Zeleynski ain't Mother Teresa and Ukraine ain't some innocent angel with a shinny halo. Let's be real; Ukraine has pretty much been everyone's b*tch, when it comes to grifters.

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Do we also recall that Quid-Pro Joe was withholding US$1B to force Ukraine to change out a prosecutor that was investigating corruption in Ukraine, which included the energy company which his son was on the Board of Directors?!?

[nevergaveitathought]

getting ukraine to settle with putin does get biden out of the hotseat

as it stands, there is a chance of this war escalating and i think biden wants to head that off, even at a cost of a large chunk of ukriane going to the ruskies and forcing zelensky to settle

all that does is feed the tiger hoping it will be a while before it turns to eat you

but that strengthens not only putin but emboldens the chinese

but biden is short sighted and hoping it gets him past his watch

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

getting ukraine to settle with putin does get biden out of the hotseat

Nope!

Too many people use the term "settle" in the context of one side committing indiscriminate war crimes and atrocities while DESTROYING THE INFRASTRUCTURE and PHYSICAL HISTORY of a country.

From the perspective of 911 to what the Russians are doing is spitting vs a hurricane. Talk of the Ukrainian President being "crooked" seems to justify the disgusting slaughter of the Ukrainian people in some folks' minds. One does not "settle" such destruction of a people for personal, financial benefits.

[1blackman1]

Statements made with no backup. Of course. We trust you Jack.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Statements made with no backup. Of course. We trust you Jack.

It’s all over TV News.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

getting ukraine to settle with putin does get biden out of the hotseat

as it stands, there is a chance of this war escalating and i think biden wants to head that off, even at a cost of a large chunk of ukriane going to the ruskies and forcing zelensky to settle

all that does is feed the tiger hoping it will be a while before it turns to eat you

but that strengthens not only putin but emboldens the chinese

but biden is short sighted and hoping it gets him past his watch

With an idiot like Biden at the helm Russia is going bomb us next just for the fun of it.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Nope!

Too many people use the term "settle" in the context of one side committing indiscriminate war crimes and atrocities while DESTROYING THE INFRASTRUCTURE and PHYSICAL HISTORY of a country.

From the perspective of 911 to what the Russians are doing is spitting vs a hurricane. Talk of the Ukrainian President being "crooked" seems to justify the disgusting slaughter of the Ukrainian people in some folks' minds. One does not "settle" such destruction of a people for personal, financial benefits.

Many men throughout history who have had less than stellar reputations rose to the occasion under dire circumstances.

William Barret Travis at The Alamo was one. Before that stand, he abandoned his wife and young son to come to Texas and basically cause trouble. He was pro slavery. He was known for a terrible ego.

But at The Alamo, facing dire straights, he rose to the occasion and through his letters to his compatriots, showed a man willing to fight and die as a soldier.

Second was the great Winston Churchill. Many don’t realize that before WW-2, he had a rather checkard career.
As Lord of the Admiralty at the Gallipoli campaign, he was blamed for two military disasters.

He was in the backwater of British Politics until WW-2 when he rose to Prime Minister and singularly inspired Great Britain to never give up.

Ukrainian President Zelenskyy just might be cut from the same mold. At this point in time, he is showing the kind of leadership while facing insurmountable odds that makes hero’s of ordinary people.

The next few weeks will tell.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

Many men throughout history who have had less than stellar reputations rose to the occasion under dire circumstances.

William Barret Travis at The Alamo was one. Before that stand, he abandoned his wife and young son to come to Texas and basically cause trouble. He was pro slavery. He was known for a terrible ego.

But at The Alamo, facing dire straights, he rose to the occasion and through his letters to his compatriots, showed a man willing to fight and die as a soldier.

Second was the great Winston Churchill. Many don’t realize that before WW-2, he had a rather checkard career.
As Lord of the Admiralty at the Gallipoli campaign, he was blamed for two military disasters.

He was in the backwater of British Politics until WW-2 when he rose to Prime Minister and singularly inspired Great Britain to never give up.

Ukrainian President Zelenskyy just might be cut from the same mold. At this point in time, he is showing the kind of leadership while facing insurmountable odds that makes hero’s of ordinary people.

The next few weeks will tell.

And then the question becomes, "can we do both things, talk about what may be a checkered past but has now risen to the occasion without being called an agent of Putin which is now out pacing racist as the fastest way ( they think ) to shut you down.


To me, this is as much about a war on the other side of the world as it is a war that is taking place in this country, freedom of speech or are we fast approaching a point where only the opinion of the party in power can be spoken, cause that is the end of the American experience in democracy.


https://nypost.com/2021/12/04/new-tw...eech-concerns/


New Twitter CEO raises free-speech worries

Some critics fear Twitter’s new CEO has a worse record on free speech than his predecessor —given his “terrifying” public statements on the issue, an “appalling” new rule implemented on his first day on the job, and a major executive restructuring Friday.
The concern is that Parag Agrawal’s leadership will bring even more restrictions to the site than Jack Dorsey’s — who infamously censored The Post over its Hunter Biden email exposés, banned President Trump and suspended former Customs and Border Patrol Commissioner Mark Morgan for tweeting favorably about the border wall — actions Dorsey later admitted were a “mistake.”
“You’re talking about an organization where free speech is integral to what they do. I’ve seen the left talk about how this appears likely that Twitter is going to endorse the more European view of free speech — which is not free speech,” said Dan Gainor, of the conservative nonprofit watchdog Media Research Center.
In a 2018 interview, Agrawal said Twitter should “focus less on thinking about free speech, but thinking about how the times have changed.” Man, would the Democrats love to see this guy on the Supreme Court.

“Where our role is particularly emphasized is who can be heard,” he went on. “And so increasingly our role is moving towards how we recommend content … how we direct people’s attention.”
"How we direct peoples attention". Pretty sure that Putin would agree with that which makes this guy, "all together now, a Putin puppet"!

[SecretE]

Of course he is. USA and its allies (including NATO nations) just got out of a quagmire in Afghanistan. They don't want another one in the Ukraine. The West has no taste for war right now. Putin knows this...time for Zelensky to recognize the same, no matter how detestable Putin's actions have been.

[Jackie S]

Originally Posted by SecretE

Of course he is. USA and its allies (including NATO nations) just got out of a quagmire in Afghanistan. They don't want another one in the Ukraine. The West has no taste for war right now. Putin knows this...time for Zelensky to recognize the same, no matter how detestable Putin's actions have been.

So you are saying that Ukraine should just curl up into the fetal position and accept Putin’s invasion as a fact of life and be subjugated.

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

It’s all over TV News.

Then a link should be easy for you to provide.

[Jacuzzme]

This’d be the first smart thing biden has done, so probably he’s not doing it.

[Jackie S]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevefo...h=5cca02a15bce