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Old 01-27-2017, 03:00 PM   #1
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Default President Trump’s first seven days of false claims, inaccurate statements and exaggerations

One week into the reign of the Turd Reich, and Twitler is on pace to reinvent gravity!

Sorry about the length of this post, but frankly, if you haven't been keeping up, or have decided that the truth doesn't matter, or are sure that the "dishonest media" is only trying to besmirch the good name of Der Furrier (ahem), then take a couple of minutes and just pick out the bullshit that catches your eye.

One. Whole. Week.

Holy underwear!

At least he's not fooling anybody, is he?

Holy mfkng underwear!


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Fact Checker
President Trump’s first seven days of false claims, inaccurate statements and exaggerations

By Glenn Kessler January 27 at 3:00 AM

(Regular readers know that candidate Donald Trump had difficulty with facts. He earned an astonishing 59 Four-Pinocchio ratings over the course of the campaign.)

Now that Trump is president, he continues to make misleading statements, based on incomplete information, inaccurate statistics or flights of fancy. Here’s an accounting of his public statements in the first seven days as president, not counting his error-plagued inauguration speech (which had eight problematic claims). If we wrote a full fact check, we noted the number of Pinocchios the statement received.

“I remember hearing [when I was young] from one of my instructors, ‘The United States has never lost a war.’ And then, after that, it’s like we haven’t won anything. We don’t win anymore.”
— Jan. 21, remarks at the CIA

This is debatable. At the very least, one might count the 1991 Persian Gulf War and the end of the Cold War as victories for the United States.

“I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on Earth. And they sort of made it sound like I had a feud with the intelligence community.”
— Jan. 21, remarks at the CIA

On Dec. 9, when The Washington Post reported that intelligence officials had concluded that Russia had sought to undermine Hillary Clinton in the election, the Trump team issued a statement: “These are the same people that said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.” After information leaked that Trump had been briefed that an unverified dossier alleged Russia had embarrassing information about him, Trump lashed out at the intelligence agencies and asked: “Are we living in Nazi Germany?” The media simply reported what Trump said about the intelligence community.

“I looked out, the field was — it looked like a million, million and a half people. … The rest of the 20-block area, all the way back to the Washington Monument, was packed.”
— Jan. 21, remarks at the CIA

Speaking to employees at the CIA, Trump complained about news coverage showing his inauguration crowd was smaller than Barack Obama’s crowd in 2009. Trump’s crowd did not go all the way to the Washington Monument. No matter how you calculate it, Trump’s crowd was significantly smaller than Obama’s crowd — and the Women’s March on Washington the next day.

“We have the all-time record in the history of Time Magazine. … I’ve been on it for 15 times this year.”
— Jan. 21, remarks at the CIA

Trump has been on the cover of Time magazine a total of 11 times. Richard Nixon holds the record — 55. Depending on whether you count small photographs or not, Hillary Clinton has been on the cover between 22 and 31 times.

“Had a great meeting at CIA Headquarters yesterday, packed house, paid great respect to Wall, long standing ovations, amazing people. WIN!”
— Jan. 22, tweet

Trump appeared to be responding to criticism of his heavily political speech in front of the CIA’s fabled memorial wall. He claimed to have received standing ovations, but he never invited the employees to take a seat. So they remained standing the whole time. (Trump later in the week repeated that he got “a standing ovation.”)

“Wow, television ratings just out: 31 million people watched the Inauguration, 11 million more than the very good ratings from 4 years ago!”
— Jan. 22, tweet

Actually, Obama’s ratings in 2009 were 7 million people higher than Trump’s numbers. Second-term inaugurals tend to get lower ratings, so Trump is cherry-picking the comparison.

“I’m a very big person when it comes to the environment. I have received awards on the environment.”
— Jan. 23, remarks during a meeting with business leaders

There is little evidence that Trump received awards for the environment. The White House pointed us to a self-published book by Trump’s former environmental consultant. The only award mentioned in that book was from New Jersey Audubon — but the group denied it ever gave an award to Trump, the Trump National club in Bedminster or any of its employees. (This statement earned Four Pinocchios.)

“We think we can cut regulations by 75 percent. Maybe more.”
— Jan. 23, meeting with business executives

This is clearly a made-up figure. As of the end of 2015, there were nearly 180,000 pages in the code of federal regulations. So, in theory, that means getting it down to 45,000 pages. There were 71,000 pages back in 1975. Even under Ronald Reagan, the number of pages climbed almost 20 percent.

“Between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused me to lose the popular vote.”
— Jan. 23, remarks to congressional leaders

This is a fantasy, worthy of Four Pinocchios. Trump is obsessed with how he lost the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes, and so he keeps making this claim even though there is no evidence to support it.

“This is on the Keystone pipeline. … A lot of jobs, 28,000 jobs. Great construction jobs.”
— Jan. 24, remarks on signing executive memorandum

In contrast to Obama, who always played down the number of jobs that would be created by the Keystone XL pipeline, Trump inflated the numbers. The project would create part-year work in four states for 10,400 workers, the State Department determined. That added up to a total of 3,900 annual construction jobs. About 12,000 other annual jobs would stem from direct spending on the project. So that adds up to 16,000, most of which are not construction jobs. (This statement earned Three Pinocchios.)

“I just signed two executive orders that will save thousands of lives, millions of jobs, and billions and billions of dollars.”
— Jan. 25, remarks at the Department of Homeland Security

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President Trump delivered a speech at the Department of Homeland Security, Jan. 25, and discussed a future meeting with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. (The Washington Post)
Trump lauded two executive actions regarding immigration and border security, including building a wall along the border of Mexico. Again, the numbers appear to have little basis in reality. Just building the wall is estimated to cost as much as $25 billion — before annual maintenance costs.

“Before we go any further, I want to recognize the ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] and Border Patrol officers in this room today and to honor their service and not just because they unanimously endorsed me for president.”
—Jan. 25, remarks at the Department of Homeland Security

The unions for ICE agents and Border Patrol officers did endorse Trump in 2016 campaign. But they did not do so unanimously. Hillary Clinton received 5 percent of the vote of the ICE membership, according to a statement by the National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council. The National Border Patrol Council endorsement, meanwhile, was based just on the vote of 11 union leaders, which sparked controversy among union members. Agents in El Paso, in a 14-13 vote, narrowly failed to have the local union disavow the endorsement.

“We ended up winning by a massive amount, 306. I needed 270. We got 306.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

Trump’s electoral college margin was relatively narrow by historical standards. He ranks 46th out 58 elections. A switch of about 40,000 votes in three states would have swung the election to Clinton.

“Then he’s groveling again. You know I always talk about the reporters that grovel when they want to write something that you want to hear but not necessarily millions of people want to hear or have to hear.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

Trump attacked the author of a 2012 Pew Center on the States report for saying his report did not back up Trump’s claims of voter fraud. Trump suggested the researcher had changed his tune, but when the report was issued the author repeatedly explained it did not reflect voter fraud. (This claim earned Four Pinocchios.)

“Of those [allegedly illegal] votes cast, none of ’em come to me. None of ’em come to me. They would all be for the other side. … They all voted for Hillary.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

Not only is there no evidence of massive voter fraud, but there is no way Trump could possibly know this.

“They say I had the biggest crowd in the history of inaugural speeches. … We had the biggest audience in the history of inaugural speeches.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

In his first interview at the White House on Jan. 25, President Trump discussed his past issues with the media, his executive actions this week and debunked claims of voter fraud and inaugural crowd size with ABC's David Muir. (Jenny Starrs/The Washington Post)

Crowd estimates are difficult, but attendance for Trump’s speech appears to be at least 80 percent smaller than Obama’s 2009 swearing-in, 70 percent smaller than Lyndon B. Johnson’s inauguration and 60 percent smaller than Obama’s second inauguration in 2013. In terms of TV viewership, Trump ranks fifth, far behind Ronald Reagan. Even online estimates don’t boost him to “biggest audience.”

“When President Obama was there two weeks ago making a speech, very nice speech. Two people were shot and killed during his speech.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

No one was shot and killed in Chicago on Jan. 10, 2017, the day Obama gave his farewell speech, according to the Chicago Police Department.

“We should’ve taken the oil. And if we took the oil you wouldn’t have ISIS. And we would have had wealth.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

Trump, in the interview, said experts who said this would violate international law were “fools.” But there are practical problems, too. In 2015, Iraq produced about 4 million barrels a day, enough crude oil to fill more than 700 Trump Towers. Securing all of the oil, including in northern Iraq where the Islamic State exists, would require a military force larger than the one that invaded Iraq in 2003.

“We have spent as of one month ago $6 trillion in the Middle East.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

Trump is lumping together the wars in Iraq (in the Middle East) and Afghanistan (in South Asia), which together cost about $1.6 trillion from 2001 to 2014. He is also adding in estimates of future spending, such as interest on the debt and veterans care for the next three decades.

“You had millions of people that now aren’t insured anymore.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

In attacking the Affordable Care Act, Trump repeats a Four-Pinocchio whopper. Some 20 million people have gained health coverage because of the law. About 2 million people were told their old plans no longer qualified under the law, but after an uproar, most received waivers that kept the plans going until the end of 2017. In any case, anyone whose plan was terminated could buy new insurance.

Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton (D) said Obamacare “is no longer affordable” and Bill Clinton said “Obamacare is crazy.”
— Jan. 25, interview with ABC News

Trump takes both comments out of context and twists their meaning. Dayton faulted Republicans for refusing to adjust the law, which he said made insurance “no longer affordable to increasing numbers of people.” Bill Clinton’s remark about a “crazy system” referred to the fact that people who did not qualify for insurance subsidies did not have a way to buy into Medicare or Medicaid.

“NAFTA has been a terrible deal, a total disaster for the United States from its inception, costing us as much as $60 billion a year with Mexico alone in trade deficits.”
— Jan. 26, remarks to congressional Republicans

The trade-deficit number is close to correct, but Trump apparently does not understand the meaning of “trade deficit.” He often suggests this money could be used to pay for his planned wall along the southern border. But that’s nonsensical. A trade deficit only means that people in one country are buying more goods from another country than people in the second country are buying from the first country. No money passes from government to government.

“We want to get our people off of welfare and back to work. So important. It’s out of control. It’s out of control.”
— Jan. 26, remarks to congressional Republicans

“Welfare” is a broad term and can apply to people who are working but receiving some government assistance. If someone is receiving means-tested assistance, it doesn’t necessarily mean they are not working.

Not all people eligible for welfare collect benefits. When they do, many of the benefits are contingent on the recipients working or actively searching for jobs, as a result of an overhaul of welfare signed into law by Clinton in 1996. And even low-income families receive some level of public assistance.

Trump is apparently unaware that participation has declined in means-tested programs such as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF) and the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP, formerly known as food stamps).

President Trump sought to frame immigration issues, the building of a border wall and the renegotiation of trade deals as a jobs issue, speaking at the annual GOP retreat on Jan. 26 in Philadelphia. (The Washington Post)
Caseloads in the TANF program have declined over the past 15 years, from about 2.4 million families to 1.6 million families. After its post-Great Recession peak in 2013, the number of people receiving food stamps has declined. In October 2016, there were 43.2 million people participating in the program, compared with 47.4 million in October 2013.

“Here in Philadelphia, the murder rate has been steady — I mean just terribly increasing.”
— Jan. 26, remarks to congressional Republicans

This is wrong. Murders have declined significantly in Philadelphia over the past decade, from 397 in 2007 to 277 in 2016; the number has been below 300 for four straight years in a city that neared 500 in 1990. Not only that, but police records reviewed by the Philadelphia Inquirer showed that in 2016, “there were fewer violent crimes than in any other year since 1979, the fewest number of property crimes since 1971, and the fewest number of robberies since 1969.”
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"If you want to keep your Doctor you can keep your Doctor."

"You're insurance premiums won't increase at all."

"We must go to war so because if we don't the next evidence we'll have of their weapons programs will be a mushroom cloud."

"I have a secret plan to end the war in Vietnam."

"The Russians shot down an American spy plane? No they didn't. We have NOT been flying secret reconaissance missions over the Soviet Union."

"We will end the role of lobbiests and special interests in Washington under my Administration."

"Under my Administration one of my first acts will be to close down Guantanamo."

"Why haven't we prosecuted any bankers for fraud? Well, it's pretty hard to make a case that any of them actually broke any laws."



"READ MY LIPS. NO NEW TAXES."

"I DID NOT HAVE SEX WITH THAT WOMAN....MONICA LEWINSKY"

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Get the message?

You just don't like Trump for reasons of style. Frankly I don't like his style either. But he's no more dishonest than any other politician except for extreme outlyers like Jimmy Carter and Bernie Sanders, and those people can't win a damn thing.
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TDS

Trump Derangement Syndrome.
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HPD

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hist...ality_disorder
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So let's see... pussycat. It's about Obama.

I thought we were still defending Dubya.

or blaming Clinton.
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Trump is an embarrassment and we are all humiliated in the eyes of the world for this situation.
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Too bad there's not a damned thing you can do about it.
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Your wrong GF there is something America can do about having Trump as president and it's all ready beginning. Also I believe that once Trump is impeached he will be sued off his ass. Basically he can say bye-bye to his wealth.
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Trump is an embarrassment and we are all humiliated in the eyes of the world for this situation.
The esteem of the rest of the world was granted only because they were getting free money from the US government. They were using us and looking at us like we were chumps.

They will respect Trump far more in the long run. Remember, the rest of the world needs to trade with us far worse than we need their crappy, cheaply made products.
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Your wrong GF there is something America can do about having Trump as president and it's all ready beginning. Also I believe that once Trump is impeached he will be sued off his ass. Basically he can say bye-bye to his wealth.
Sorry. The levers of power in Washington are in the hands of the Republicans. Ain't happening.
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And the Republicans can't stand him either.DUH
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Not all Fire Phoenix - maybe some - but even if they can't stand him - they will honor the office of the Presidency. The republicans won't do anything to endanger their power. The dems would do the same if they were in power - they didn't impeach Clinton now did they? . And there a whole lot of Republicans that like him - you are just being a hater that is spreading lies because you do not understand facts.



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Thanks for the site about histrionic personality disorder Ms Phoenix ..... now I understand perfectly, Sissy Chaps has it! ..... but if you really think the Republicans in Congress aren't on board with Trump and his policies and you seriously think they're getting in line to impeach him, you truly are delusional ..... the
democrats certainly don't have the votes and it looks like they'll probably lose even more Congressional seats in 2018 ..... sorry if you can't stand a president who is doing exactly what he said he was going to do ..... in other words B. A. F. L. ..... be a fucking leader .....
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Sadly LMFAO. At the rate he is going it could mean less than a year and a half.

Gauge, Trump isn't a leader and never was.
Oh and Polly Parrot, how do you honor somebody that doesn't honor the office in the first place?
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