Miss the good old days

[Takemyusername!]

I swear it wasn't all that long ago I could get hr outcall with an attractive, open minded, reliable girl for under 2 bills. My how things have changed.

Oh well I guess.

[bambino]

It just vanished. Kinda like the steel industry in Pittsburgh. You woke one day and it was gone. Never to come back.

[DrivesAllDay]

With the advent of OnlyFans, these girls found they can get Simps to pay for just photos & videos without never having to physically meet. I mean, I get it. Compared to meeting in person, OF is relatively "safe".

[Charley3]

But doesn’t only the top tier girls make money on OnlyFans? What are the girls doing that are hot, but not OnlyFans hot. What are they doing?

[Big Stig]

Originally Posted by bambino

You woke one day and it was gone. Never to come back.

I'm not woke and never will be. Everything is either more expensive, a smaller amount, lower in quality or all three together. Providers are just an extreme example. I'm pretty much done with this hobby. Its just not enjoyable anymore.

[Don Stephens]

Stig is certainly right about the way things are changing - both in the hobby and beyond

[DrivesAllDay]

Originally Posted by Charley3

But doesn’t only the top tier girls make money on OnlyFans? What are the girls doing that are hot, but not OnlyFans hot. What are they doing?

Nope. They don't have to be top tier girls. I see average/ok looking ones doing OF and still making $$ at it, maybe not millions, but more than they would otherwise. It's like they say "There's something for everyone".

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Big Stig

I'm not woke and never will be. Everything is either more expensive, a smaller amount, lower in quality or all three together. Providers are just an extreme example. I'm pretty much done with this hobby. Its just not enjoyable anymore.

I agree. If I want to get my rocks off I’ll just pop into Sky Spa. In and out.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Big Stig

I'm not woke and never will be. Everything is either more expensive, a smaller amount, lower in quality or all three together. Providers are just an extreme example. I'm pretty much done with this hobby. Its just not enjoyable anymore.

It's this area, and not the hobby in general. New York, Florida, Canada, Europe are all still pretty incredible.

[LayingPipe]

Originally Posted by DrivesAllDay

With the advent of OnlyFans

Doing in person "dates" they were limited to customers in driving distance. On the internet they have access to men around the world

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by Big Stig

I'm not woke and never will be. Everything is either more expensive, a smaller amount, lower in quality or all three together. Providers are just an extreme example. I'm pretty much done with this hobby. Its just not enjoyable anymore.

I assume you have experience with SA, and I think I know the "type" of provider you like. There are plenty of Age 20's and Age 30's essentially-Realistic Pro Ho's on SA, and plenty of them will do business for no more than $300 a session....

SA is also filled with "newbie" girls who want SA guys to "earn" their attention by Venmoing them money, "content" sellers who pitch the "Let's start online and then when I get comfortable then we can meet" scams and the "Let's go shopping and get to know each other!" scammers. There is too much wide "variety" of Legit Ho's and Scammers on SA (and all types between) but the Pro Ho's do exist on SA....

I know you know all of this, but I thought it important to add that there are $300 and minus $300 providers in PGH. The market is much more "variable" now with "variable" SA girls down to deracinated "street" girls on "public" ad-sites, and also all the unique PGH "car date" and AMP's scenes. But there are plenty of $300 and less Pro Ho's in PGH. They just exist on SA with all the "Online Only" and "Let's go shopping!" scammers....

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by bambino

I agree. If I want to get my rocks off I’ll just pop into Sky Spa. In and out.

You have posted before that you often like "same day" sessions, and often BBBJ only. I have been offered more "Free to meet today, Daddy?" deals from SA girls than any of the ASPD and Indys girls most of whom required advanced scheduling....

If you browse the "Recently Active " list on SA and see girls/women who have been on there for Months or Years then they are probably players. It's the "Recently Joined" SA girls who are swamped with PM's from hobbyists and Variably according to How Hot the girls pics are. The hotter the "newbie" pics, the more PM's she gets in her early run. And the more likely she tries to run Scams when she knows she has all that attention. If you see an SA girl who is regularly online (on SA) and often on the "Recently Active" list then she is probably a player, and many of them do same-day scheduling....

It's not all Doom and Gloom on the PGH hobby-scene, but it's not as "organized" as it was before 2005 when ASPD allowed ads and reviews and then in the 2005 and on era of Indys which was it's own "self contained" hobby (and moral and immoral) universe with plenty of options....

In that sense the PGH hobby scene has "diversified" and "modernized" and has simply changed with the times from the industrial era's right on through the fast-changing online era's of ASPD (quickly vanished) and then the (Entertaining!) Indys era's. It's just a different "variable", more modern market now, not as "organized" (like as-with organized labor) of years past....

[tolstoy]

Originally Posted by Charley3

But doesn’t only the top tier girls make money on OnlyFans? What are the girls doing that are hot, but not OnlyFans hot. What are they doing?

I have seen BCD two local PGH girls, one an ex-Indys semi-UTR provider and her friend, both of whom operated on SA and OnlyFans without any success on either of those platforms. I think hobby-guys imagine OF girls are making more money than those girls are actually making, especially if the girls don't have any national "influencer" status. Sure, it's conceivable that girls are selling "subscriptions" to their OF accounts (and not banging for money) but if a girl quickly (or over time) starts and then stops her OF account then that means she did not make enough money from it....

Sure, there are "content" sellers who try to run-scams in the orthodox (or is it unorthodox?) hobby world, but there are also straight-hookers and also UTR and "just you but no one else" PFP girls who try to "diversify" with OF. As long as an SA girl or any other type of provider proves she is PFP then she can work her own OF account too. And, sure, most guys here want to determine if she Bangs For Cash or if she is a Scammer "content" seller and plenty of both types exist in this world....

[Big Stig]

Originally Posted by tolstoy

I assume you have experience with SA, and I think I know the "type" of provider you like. There are plenty of Age 20's and Age 30's essentially-Realistic Pro Ho's on SA, and plenty of them will do business for no more than $300 a session....

I used SA a lot and when it first became popular and it was tremendous. It kept me swimming in pussy for a while. Literally like shooting fish in a barrel. The selection of great women was extensive and mostly grounded when it came to their donation. Now, its a total crap shoot with scammers, online bullshit, pay to just meet, advance payments and overwhelming GPS. I'm pretty much done with that too.

[DrivesAllDay]

Originally Posted by Big Stig

I used SA a lot and when it first became popular and it was tremendous. It kept me swimming in pussy for a while. Literally like shooting fish in a barrel. The selection of great women was extensive and mostly grounded when it came to their donation. Now, its a total crap shoot with scammers, online bullshit, pay to just meet, advance payments and overwhelming GPS. I'm pretty much done with that too.

Don't forget the girls wanting you to pay off their student loans or pay for their college tuition.