Aurora

[paintedbynumbers]

It's so fucking sad to see what is happening in Aurora, Colorado. This is what happens when you open the borders to gangs. While Biden sits on vacation and does nothing to help the innocent. This isn't going to help Kamala at all.

[HDGristle]

Meanwhile the Biden Administration is on pace to deport as many folks as Trump did during his term and deported the most during one fiscal year since FY 2010.

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

Meanwhile the Biden Administration is on pace to deport as many folks as Trump did during his term and deported the most during one fiscal year since FY 2010.

big deal hd....now compare that to how many biden let in in his fours years to trump

a turd is a turd no matter how you try to color it..........

[HDGristle]

Just how many did he let in, Chizzy?

There have been over 1.1 million deportations since FY21, plus over 3 million expulsions, including Title 42 expulsions. He's going to have actually removed more folks in 1 term than Trump or Obama did in a single term.

Don't fall into the encounters trap like Rubio and Cotton.

[Salty Again]

Originally Posted by chizzy

big deal hd....now compare that to how many biden let in in his fours years to trump

a turd is a turd no matter how you try to color it..........

... Over 9,000,000! (Nine Million) illegals let in
under President Biden and VP Kamala. ...

#### Salty

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

... Over 9,000,000! (Nine Million) illegals let in
under President Biden and VP Kamala. ...

#### Salty

You're neck deep in the encounters trap.

Most reputable estimates of total population of illegal immigrants are between 11 and 17 million. We were over 10 million in 2020.

This includes an estimated 1.2 million gottaways

You're not factoring in deportations, expulsions, removals or self-removals. Nor are you factoring in those who are apprehensions that ultimately are legitimately granted asylum or refugee status. Nor multiple-entry attempts (each of which is a separate encounter)

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

You're neck deep in the encounters trap.

Most reputable estimates of total population of illegal immigrants are between 11 and 17 million. We were over 10 million in 2020.

This includes an estimated 1.2 million gottaways

You're not factoring in deportations, expulsions, removals or self-removals. Nor are you factoring in those who are apprehensiona that ultimately are legitimately granted asylum or refugee status. Nor multiple-entry attempts (each of which is a separate encounter)

color it anyway you want to try hd, the percentage of returns may be equal the 2 presidents terms but the amount of crossovers during the biden years was over triple than those in trumps years

fact check in feb.2024.......... fyi, hardly a right wing sided place to get info, so it sways left mostly

While the raw numbers are much higher under Biden — 5 million encounters compared with 1.4 million under Trump in those time frames — the percentages for the two administrations were similar: 47% removed under Trump and 51% under Biden. Bier’s estimates are for illegal immigration between ports of entry. (As our bar graph above shows, both administrations had removal rates above 50% when Title 42 was being used to expel people.)


this is why I hardly ever post in this shithole anymore.... neither side wants to admit failure or agree that their side fucked something up....its quite childish

illegal immigration under biden is horrific by any logical persons thought process. so keep sugar coating a turd in defense of the left or hatred of trump. im done......

[HDGristle]

I'm not talking about rates, Chizzy. Avoided the rates on purpose because we know you want to focus on volume and real numbers.

Trump had Covid lockdowns and lack of travel to help keep his numbers low, too, btw. Don't forget.

You keep trying to say polishing a turd, but you don't want to have a real conversation. No need to be so damn angsty. We can focus on totals like you want.

Just be ready to go deep into these numbers. I can and will

[HDGristle]

Let's start here, Chizzy

If the gang members in Aurora entered claiming asylum, how long would you expect it to take for their case to be adjudicated?

Are they eligible for work permits while waiting? If so, how long does it take for USCIS to issue their EAD?

If they're Venezuelan and seeking refugee status or applying for Temporary Protected Status, how long does that take to be aadjudicated? Do either occur at the border?

Are asylum cases currently being taken at the Southern border outside of CBPOne appts?

If someone was expelled 3x under Title 42 did that count as 3 encounters or 1?

What's the current rate of daily encounters?

What are some of the root causes of the current backlogs in asylum related crossings? In refugee or TPS applications?

Is someone in the country illegally if they're awaiting an asylum case to be adjudicated?

[paintedbynumbers]

The bigger issue is not the illegals being here, it's the fact that nothing has been done to help the citizens of Aurora! No National Guard, no Army, no Police help even. They are trying to brush it under the rug! Why is that? That is the big question.

[HDGristle]

Under what circumstances are you calling for the national guard or army?

There has been a lot of misleading information shared about what is happening in our city. Aurora is a safe community. Media have conflated and considerably exaggerated incidents that are isolated to a handful of problem properties alone.

Yes, we are concerned that there is a small Tren de Aragua (TdA) presence in Aurora and we have been taking it seriously. We have responded. We have made arrests. We will continue to make arrests. We will continue to address the problems that the absentee, out-of-state owners of these properties have allowed to fester unchecked. Aurora will aggressively pursue all actions available under city code and criminal statute.

As
@AuroraPD shared, we have received questions about Jhonardy Jose Pacheco-Chirino also known as “Cookie” or “Galleta.” We previously announced his arrest in connection to a July 28 shooting. We are able to confirm Pacheco-Chirino, 22, pictured here, is a documented member of Tren de Aragua (TdA). The department is not aware of his status within the gang. He is currently in the custody of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Local, regional and national media are leading the nation to believe that Aurora is wholly unsafe. That is simply not true. While these isolated situations are rightfully of great concern and warrant increased action and scrutiny, violent crime in the city is down in nearly all crime categories.

Going to grocery stores, parks, schools, banks, shopping centers, visiting with neighbors and other everyday activities remain unchanged.

The city and the Aurora Police Department (APD) will not make any conclusory statements about specific incidents or provide details about law enforcement strategy and operations. Doing so would be counterproductive to our public safety efforts.

Furthermore, as we have stated previously, the city and APD established a special task force in collaboration with other local, state and federal partners to specifically address concerns about TdA and other criminal activity affecting the metro community. We are grateful that the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA), a valuable federal partner, has acknowledged its ongoing work into TdA across the metro and appreciate the additional resources it provides to combat this issue.

We will continue to urge all community members to report crimes to local law enforcement.

Again, Aurora is a safe place to live, work and visit. It is tragic that select individuals and entities have mischaracterized our city based on isolated incidents. We encourage you to build up our community and not allow the hysteria of others to tear it down.

The Aurora PD isn't calling for that kind of action. The City isn't.

What specifically requires the NG or Army?

The Mayor of Aurora is a strong conservative and a combat veteran. He's not some pansy cuck lib. What are you saying that he's covering up?

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by paintedbynumbers

The bigger issue is not the illegals being here, it's the fact that nothing has been done to help the citizens of Aurora! No National Guard, no Army, no Police help even. They are trying to brush it under the rug! Why is that? That is the big question.

That might be a question for Colorado's government. Doesn't necessarily have to involve Los Federales. Why isn't Colorado itself doing more to protect its people?

[paintedbynumbers]

Colorado should be doing more why aren't they? This could happen anywhere. What is happening in Colorado is showing these gangs that nothing will be done and more and more are going to cross into our country and they won't just be coming to Colorado.

[HDGristle]

What exactly do you think is happening in Aurora?

[Mistershark]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

What exactly do you think is happening in Aurora?

Just some MAGA hoax. Certainly not immigrant gangs riding up and down the street murdering people at will or whatever OP is implying.