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Old 01-22-2015, 08:43 AM   #1
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Default Patriots are CHEATERS!

The New England Patriots deflated footballs so Tom Brady could get a better grip to pass them. Everyone always knew the Patriots were cheaters, this is the second time they were caught.
11 of the 12 balls were under inflated by a significant amount. Does that sound like random chance, no way. My guess is Brady told the equipment ball boy to do it.
The Cowboys are AMERICA'S TEAM , the Patriots are AMERICA'S CHEATERS.
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Old 01-22-2015, 09:48 AM   #2
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They all cheat, some just do it better.
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Old 01-22-2015, 10:25 AM   #3
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Another disgruntled Cowboys fan -
New England is a much better team and its unfortunate that such little issues arise to take from their glory. First off a billion dollar business like the NFL does not have full control over the balls it uses for its games and secondly NE still scored more points during the 2nd half after the correct size balls were used... Anyway regardless, lets just watch and admire the two best teams play football and maybe Next year we can talk about the Cowboys in the super bowl at which time, I would have won the lotto.
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If I recall correctly, the Patriots were sanctioned a few years back for filming the NY Jets hand signals in the season opener.

They are a talented team and don't need to cheat, but they do it anyway. That is a management issue.

If there wasn't so much money involved in the Superbowl, they would have to forfeit that game. Goodell should suspend the coach for a year like they did to the Saints.
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if the balls were deflated wouldnt that help both teams ?? I dont get it??
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Old 01-22-2015, 11:16 AM   #6
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if the balls were deflated wouldnt that help both teams ?? I dont get it??
My point exactly. If it's such a huge advantage, it's an advantage for both teams. The balls being underinflated had zero to do with the final score of that game. But, I can understand why folks would get annoyed with the Patriots continuous shady and underhanded behavior.
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Each team gets their own set of balls. Forgive the pun.
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Each team gets their own set of balls. Forgive the pun.
Yes it's one of the strangest rules in sports, each team prepares and maintains the balls that are used when their own offensive unit is on the field. Andrew Luck never used the balls that Brady used and visa versa. Can you imagine that in any other sport, it would be impossible except maybe in baseball.
Yes it's also true that in 2007 the Patriots were fined $250,000 and the coach Bill Belichick was personally fined $5000,000 for illegaly filming the New York Jets defensive coaches signals on the sidelines.
Brady is going to give a press conference in about an hour, I wonder if he consulted Lance Armstrong. The most unfortunate thing about the whole issue is that the poor ball boy might get caught up in it. I guarantee you that the equipment manager ball boy is going get tough questioning because he was in control of the balls after they were inspected by the referee about two hours before game time.
The referees always examine the balls of every team after the game and there is no way they would have made this a public issue unless it was serious.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:11 PM   #9
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Not every quarterback has a preference as to under inflating or over inflating the balls...but a lot do. Therefore, this issue is a common issue depending on the quarterback. All those QB's who have a preference try to get away with some slight (presumably unnoticeable) amount of under or over inflating of the ball. Is it cheating?...probably. Do they all do it?...probably. If the NFL want to control it...the NFL should be responsible for the air pressure instead of letting each team control the air pressure. Obviously, before now, the NFL had a rule, but didn't care enough about it to enforce it regularly.
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From what I read, the officials often take a ball out of play for testing later at some point in the game.. We just don't hear about it because it is usually a non-issue.

That equipment manager will be grilled hard about the details of how he handles Tom Brady's balls and the procedures he follows to prepare Brady's balls and how Tom likes his balls to be handled..
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Default NOBODY WANTED TO BELIEVE ARMSTRONG WAS A SERIAL CHEATER.....

Serial cheaters; they should get an NFL ban.


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I wouldn't be surprised if the NE Patriots have electronic eaves dropping on opponents locker room! How else can you explain the statistical improbability of 44 consecutive at home wins (72 wins when leading at half time); that is 9 seasons of straight no losses! A statistic that defies logic in a league that has Team parity.

Cheating on a massive scale.
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Old 01-22-2015, 03:04 PM   #12
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Brady's press conference just ended and of course he denied knowing anything. The big problem is all the analyst on ESPN who are ex-NFL player said they didn't believe him. They said they did not believe he was telling the truth.

THE COVERUP IS ALWAYS WORSE THAN THE CRIME. "I am not a crook".
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It's all a bunch of crap! they could have won that game playing with a watermelon!
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Old 01-22-2015, 04:45 PM   #14
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Every ref that touched those footballs in the 1st half didn't notice a thing....this is nit picking.
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Then why do they cheat?

Oh yeah, and Brady is a liar.....................and Aikman agrees:
Former Cowboys quarterback Troy Aikman has weighed in on Deflategate and he thinks that the Patriots should be in for a harsh punishment from the NFL. Aikman made an appearance on Sportsradio 1310 The Ticket on Thursday and said he believed that it is "obvious" quarterback Tom Brady was involved in deflating the footballs

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