Upscale escort vs cracked out Street hoe (what? is there no inbetween?)

[hotelpimp]

What do you think of when you hear the phrase "Upscale"? snobbery, elitist, joe average not welcome, too good for you unless you make 80+k a year.
Now when you think of street walker what come to mind? bad neighborhood, lice riddin hotel, missing teeth, drugged out skank,getting crabs if your lucky getting robbed if your unlucky.
Not that long ago me and some friends were watching that movie " the people VS larry flynt" and there was a scene where he came up with the idea to turn the newsletter he used to promote his stripclub into an actual magazine (known as hustler).
This scene got us talking about the paralel that can be made between playboy and all the upscale escorts out there.
Below is a script of that scene.

Ooh, look at her tits.
Larry:They're nice.
They're nice tits,
but they don't look real.
I don't understand
this magazine.

All these fuzzy pictures...
articles about I don't know
what the hell they're talking about.

You guys read Playboy?

His buddies:- Well, yeah.
- Yeah.

Larry:Did you...
Excuse me, baby.

Did you enjoy
this month's article...

on how to hook up
your quadraphonic stereo system?

His buddies:- What are you talkin' about?
- I think I missed that one.

Larry:Did you follow their advice
on how to make a perfect martini?

Who is this magazine for anyway? I mean, it's like if you don't make 20 thousand plus a year, you don't jerk off. Seven million people buying it and nobody's reading it. Gentlemen, Playboy is mocking you.

Another thing to note is at that time there were raunchier magazines but they were usually black market and sold out of the basement of the local bookstore, and the parelell to that would be the common street walker.
I have wondered if there is a market for the AVERAGE JOE somewhere in the middle, where a guy of modest meanes can find companionship for the night but not break the bank or even actually afford to see a girl more often than once every couple of months.
Where a working man does not have to resort to going to a dangerous high crim seedy side of town for his nookie.
Working in strip clubs as a DJ I knew many women who would give cheap lapdances and make more than the girls who charged more.
That was a basic rule of economics as there are to ways to make profit, mark up and volume.
a product costs $10 to make one person can afford to pay $100 but 9 0 people can afford $20 and to vendors are selling said product one for $100 using the markup aproach and the other for $20 using the volume approach well at the end of the day who sells more and makes more? there is a reason why big box stores walmart & target are still making a profit while stripling&cox and other high end stores have went the way of the dinosaur. and in the world of escorting this is even more true because they are selling the same product over and over, it costs them zero to produce said product.
Well these girls who cator to the average guy DO exist, and sadly you only see them in a few places craigslist, backpage and
the hoetell,

Alot of these women are average looking women(fine by me), single moms making extra money while their kids are in school, or divorced women trying to keep their lifestyle from changing.
It's a shame the review sites seem to ignore them, and the comminitty at large seems content on keeping things the same.

[guest123009]

I am really beginning to enjoy the Pimp's posts and reconsidering my original derision.

[Kelly TNT]

The title confused me...

~Kelly TNT

[guest123009]

Not saying I completely understand him either, but I enjoy "different".

[guest041110]

Strange is good sometimes

[otrdriver]

In plain words The ladies who sell quality and are in the $$$ range are selling a service with quality to maintain their lifstyle. Other ladies sell same/similar service for say $5 with more tricks in a day to maintain their lifestyle, the escort community looks down on them cause of the low price high quaniy of tricks. These ladies are filling a void in their lives and at the same time satisfying the gents with lower funding. now I'm confused!

Let's try again you can buy a Mercedes or you can buy a Chevrolet.
does that sound right?

[hotelpimp]

Below is a responce I got from this same topic on another board.

Originally posted by VeronicaMoore
Okay, so if BP and CL are what you consider "high end of the middle"


1. SW (low)
2. CL (high end of middle)
3. BP (high end of middle)
4. ASPD (upper?)
5. TER (upper)
6. Eros (upper)

And you're looking for something in the 1.5 range, someone with rates in between a street provider and a craigslist provider, I'm assuming?

Well, if you're looking for ladies like that to advertise on the internet, it's not going to happen. CL is pretty much the next step up for providers trying to transition from SW (again, I'm assuming) and when the ladies move to the internet and see what the other providers are charging, they're going to try and stay competitive and make the same amount of money. I'm guessing an increase in rates is the main motivator for moving from SW to CL.

Either way I think that if neither you nor anyone else here can seem to think of something exactly like what you're looking for, then it probably doesn't exist.

So either you need to stick with your bud light or save up for a bottle of champagne (and we know champagne--- sparkling wine anyway--- comes in all prices ranging from $5 a bottle to upwards of $500 a bottle). Most ladies aren't going to change their prices. You can ask, but be prepared to get a bunch of "no" answers.

And hotelpimp... are you really a pimp? lol

Thanx for the input, yes I have seen what you are talking about, I have known a few SW's who have made the leap and it was usually via CL, since alot of low end hotels are starting to offer free WiFi alot of working girls who Live in those hotels(pay by the weeks) are starting to get online.
one girl I know who is on BP now and then bought a used laptop for 30 bucks off a crackhead thats how she found out about BP before that she was a $20 girl now she is around $80 but she started on BP at around $50 and yes she uses real photos but you can tell they were taken with a camphone. she is one of those types that has a nice body but you can see her hard life in the face. so yes they are out there I guess you just gotta catch them during the transition period(which is not long).

Oh and no I'm not a pimp.

[guest123009]

How would you define yourself, HP?

[hotelpimp]

I already told you the diff between me and a pimp in the sense you think of one.

[guest123009]

Basically you said you don't hit them. But do you get paid in money or pussy? Why do you do it?

[hotelpimp]

Both and I like the life, I love it. less drama than a 9 - 5.
and the only problem is the constant search for new talent, but I dont handle that part much.

[vnurse]

I may be WAY off here but a SW (to me) is usually an addict who is walking and hustling to get cash for her next "party". The only reason I say this is because I used to be quite involved with homeless services and saw the really nasty side of it.

On the other hand, you can have a gal who advertises in a paper or on the internet who is STILL a SW. A gal who charges a lot of $'s and has a nice place can be very low class...I know because I have met some.

When I think of "upscale escorts", I think of a very lovely lady who is fairly expensive, making outcalls to nice hotels for well-to-do businessmen, etc.

As far as I'm concerned, I offer very high end services for just a little over SW prices as do many of the lovely ladies here.

It's all in one's perspective, I suppose. Geez, I hate stereotyping!

[hotelpimp]

Originally Posted by vnurse

I may be WAY off here but a SW (to me) is usually an addict who is walking and hustling to get cash for her next "party". The only reason I say this is because I used to be quite involved with homeless services and saw the really nasty side of it.

On the other hand, you can have a gal who advertises in a paper or on the internet who is STILL a SW. A gal who charges a lot of $'s and has a nice place can be very low class...I know because I have met some.

When I think of "upscale escorts", I think of a very lovely lady who is fairly expensive, making outcalls to nice hotels for well-to-do businessmen, etc.

As far as I'm concerned, I offer very high end services for just a little over SW prices as do many of the lovely ladies here.

It's all in one's perspective, I suppose. Geez, I hate stereotyping!

I agree I dont like stereotypes either, problem is stereotypes form when people see alot of the same thing. hell we all do it to a degree.
how many times have you heard a news story about a drime commited and guessed the race and or social class of the suspect before they even showed the pic?
And because of this the exceptions to the rule get overlooked or lumped in with others. yes there are many crack hoes out there that will give head for what ever they need for their next fix, heck once when I was waiting for a girl to finish an incall and a hotel a lady came up to my car offering sex for $10 I said I was waiting on someone and had no time and she dropped to $5.
she looked to be about 19 but a hard 19, and I could tell she was tweekin, my guess is she was just a few dollars short of her next fix.

but then again I had a neighbor ounce that asked me if I could keep her kids while she worked(I used to have weekend visitation then) she said she knew what I did, since our kids played together all day anyway..... This woman had a good job for years and got laid off and was doin what she had to do, she was a 20 a pop girl. I learned 2 things that day 1 a woman will do anything for her kids and 2 I was waaaaayyyyy to obvious with what i was doing if my neighbors figured me out lol.
But I still think women like you get over looked.

I am totally confussed about what you are asking or are you just making a statement? There seemed to be a lot of questions..............my thoughts on the ones I can remember after reading that this late or early in the morning.

When I hear upscale - no I don't automatically think snobby, elitest or arrogant, bitch that thinks she is better than anyone else....or a man that looks down at others because of his six figure income

When I hear SW - no I don't automatically think cracked our whore, diseased infested skank either

However, we all know that those definitions can fit both on occassion depending on the person.

Other questions I think you asked... Why aren't there more girls that want to cater to guys offering less
$? Why aren't there guys with more $$$ looking to the streets?

One, I think you are assuming that all levels of this business it just about sex. The quick fix for the sex or drug addict, the next dollar, the hustle, etc... Not exactly true..........

Heck, why does a steak at Del Frisco's cost more than a steak at Denny's? Why is the Kroger brand of eggs less expensive than the name brand? Why is it that everytime I go through the drive through at any fast food resturant I get f***** 95% of the time?

I don't think the boards necessarily ignore these girls; I don't think the girls get on the boards(for whatever reason) and I don't think their clients review them(for whatever reason). It has nothing to do with the ones of us that are on here or the people that run and own the boards. Maybe the SW pimp's should ask the clients to go on the boards and give his girl a review....(or else) -just kidding

To get back to why aren't there more girls willing to cater for less money $..........ask a girl any girl that you know this question......you got two guys, 1 guy is your average Joe sort of good looking, sexy little ass and is offering $; then the other guy is a little over weight, not as good looking but okay and is offering $$$ who is she going home with if she can only pick one? then ask her why? She isn't going to care that the guy offering her less money is better looking or even that he works harder or differently for his money than the other guy is she? If she is a SW can she afford to care?

Then ask a few of your guy friends- he has $$$ to spend and can only pick one girl.......one girl is 20 going on 40, doesn't really like nor wants to be on the streets, hates her job and is most certainly going to hate him the entire time or he can handpick one of 5 girls all could be his dream date as it relates to looks, enjoys what they do and really wants to rock his world.................who is he going to pick?

Of course more $$$ does not always equal class or better or vise versa.

If I totally miss-understood this thread I am sorry..........just ignore it

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