When another provider threatens to set you up?

[alluringava]

Very recently a provider openly threatened to destroy me and 'my career' by hinting that she'd drop a line to the Dallas cops and my home city that I'm travelling out of state to work. " It's a felony," she said. This person happens to be unstable and outed me on the forum with my private personal information, which admittingly, did trouble me because it was up there for a while before admin was able to take it down. She herself has a lot of legal issues so it was like the pot calling the kettle black, but it's deeply disturbing to me, even more so than a client threatening to call the police, that another provider would try to drop the dime on her fellow sister worker.

Advice?

[ShysterJon]

I'll reproduce what I wrote in the other thread where you asked essentially the same question:

"I obviously can't say for sure, since I'm not employed by the Dallas Police Department, but I would think if someone called and gave DPD an anonymous tip to the effect that "alluringeva the provider is coming to Dallas," or even "A provider named [INSERT NAME], who goes by alluringeva, is coming to Dallas," such a report would probably be met with a sizeable portion of indifference, perhaps even a yawn. I suspect your clients do not react in the same way when you journey to their city."

I can't speak for the police in your base city, Reno, Nevada, but I would think the liberality of enforcement of prostitution laws would lead one to believe LE there would not put your apprehension at the top of their list of priorities.

I'll also add, if you think the person is determined to make your life hell by following through on her threats, you might want to lay low for awhile.

[alluringava]

Originally Posted by ShysterJon

I'll reproduce what I wrote in the other thread where you asked essentially the same question:

"I obviously can't say for sure, since I'm not employed by the Dallas Police Department, but I would think if someone called and gave DPD an anonymous tip to the effect that "alluringeva the provider is coming to Dallas," or even "A provider named [INSERT NAME], who goes by alluringeva, is coming to Dallas," such a report would probably be met with a sizeable portion of indifference, perhaps even a yawn. I suspect your clients do not react in the same way when you journey to their city."

I can't speak for the police in your base city, Reno, Nevada, but I would think the liberality of enforcement of prostitution laws would lead one to believe LE there would not put your apprehension at the top of their list of priorities.

I'll also add, if you think the person is determined to make your life hell by following through on her threats, you might want to lay low for awhile.

She got banned from this board and I can easily get a subpoena for the deleted threatening, outing posts that she made if she wants to go to war. She's also done this before to me several years ago and her threats were always just that..threats. I will post here as I normally do. I rarely work here in Reno due to my other job anyways. To me, when another provider threatens to 'out' another it's like two streetwalkers fighting or two drug dealers saying they're product is the right one and the other is a fake. I don't think the police really care.

[Likinikki]

Unfortunately, there will always be women like that...truly sad.

[Chica Chaser]

My thought is this:

Every single time you log into this site, up there where your handle and password go, there is a little box that you have to check that confirms the you are 18 or older. If people are incapable of acting like adults here you need to try Nickelodeon.com or maybe even NickJr for some.

[Guest011914-1]

Just remember everything here is fantasy and gentlemen are interested in your time and company. The best thing to do is becareful with your screening and have a blast. They will always be people out there who want what you have and know they fall short by comparison and will do anything to shake you. When you let them bother you they win and by living your life and being happy they lose and you win. So to hell with anyone who tries to hurt you in the end.. karma will come back on them. So just don't give anyone that much power in your head and keep doing what you are doing...

[Cpalmson]

Originally Posted by ShysterJon

I'll reproduce what I wrote in the other thread where you asked essentially the same question:

"I obviously can't say for sure, since I'm not employed by the Dallas Police Department, but I would think if someone called and gave DPD an anonymous tip to the effect that "alluringeva the provider is coming to Dallas," or even "A provider named [INSERT NAME], who goes by alluringeva, is coming to Dallas," such a report would probably be met with a sizeable portion of indifference, perhaps even a yawn. I suspect your clients do not react in the same way when you journey to their city."

I can't speak for the police in your base city, Reno, Nevada, but I would think the liberality of enforcement of prostitution laws would lead one to believe LE there would not put your apprehension at the top of their list of priorities.

I'll also add, if you think the person is determined to make your life hell by following through on her threats, you might want to lay low for awhile.

SJ, for the most part, I find your legal opinions and posts to be very informative and sound advice. However, in this instance, I have to beg to differ with you. If said individual contacts the right people (i.e. the vice squad) in any particular city, I'd bet they'd do more than just yawn. While they may not make apprehending alluringava a top priority, they just might put her name/picture on their BOLO sheets for the time period she is going to be in their fine city. This is low hanging fruit for them. It only takes them five minutes to check out the information in the tip. I'm sure the vice squad has some sick fucks who enjoy getting on the internet to surf for this type of activity. I know that where I live, rumor has it that a certain local LEA will surf BackPage and run stings on providers who advertise on BP. Who knows what other sites police are willing to surf. An anonymous tip just makes their surfing more interesting.

BTW, I do think laying low is good advice. Also, if this is some sort of long on-going feud, I'd recommend that alluringava change her persona. Yeah, I know that sucks b/c she probably has a solid/well-respected history under the brand name alluringava, but at some point, she may want to change her name, website, contact info, etc. Of course, she would be wise to let her previous client know of the changes. This same type of situation occurred with a local provider. She was being harassed. She simply changed her persona while letting her clients know ahead of time.

[alluringava]

This woman just sent me a series of e mails with an attorney e mail saying that she just flew into my home city to kick my ass and 'make me suffer'. The problem is that her attorney is not in the same state she lives in, I'm not sure why. She apparently sent a bunch of e mails to an attorney whose name and e mail I found on a law website from Kentucky, and this woman happens to live in California. I can't imagine why she'd have a law firm in a state she never lived in. She then said she was going to bring 'defamation' charges against me because when she outed me and posted my personal information, I posted that I knew she stole from clients. She claimed by saying that, I was 'defaming' her business reputation. Isn't that kind of stupid? That's like two streetwalkers walking into a cop's station saying "This ho says I'm stealing from my tricks and I want to sue her?"

[alluringava]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

SJ, for the most part, I find your legal opinions and posts to be very informative and sound advice. However, in this instance, I have to beg to differ with you. If said individual contacts the right people (i.e. the vice squad) in any particular city, I'd bet they'd do more than just yawn. While they may not make apprehending alluringava a top priority, they just might put her name/picture on their BOLO sheets for the time period she is going to be in their fine city. This is low hanging fruit for them. It only takes them five minutes to check out the information in the tip. I'm sure the vice squad has some sick fucks who enjoy getting on the internet to surf for this type of activity. I know that where I live, rumor has it that a certain local LEA will surf BackPage and run stings on providers who advertise on BP. Who knows what other sites police are willing to surf. An anonymous tip just makes their surfing more interesting.

BTW, I do think laying low is good advice. Also, if this is some sort of long on-going feud, I'd recommend that alluringava change her persona. Yeah, I know that sucks b/c she probably has a solid/well-respected history under the brand name alluringava, but at some point, she may want to change her name, website, contact info, etc. Of course, she would be wise to let her previous client know of the changes. This same type of situation occurred with a local provider. She was being harassed. She simply changed her persona while letting her clients know ahead of time.

It's actually NOT a long feud. It began on Sunday night when she outed my personal information and a link to an old docket thread about some dismissed past criminal history charges and a DUI. I'm not sure what legal grounds she even has for saying I 'defamed' her even any at all, especially in this business. The thread was long taken down and the feud was deleted, and I do know for a fact she has stolen from clients but never said anywhere else that she did. I think personally this girl has serious issues...and its called craziness.

[alluringava]

Now here's something interesting. Said provider claimed she was going to 'sue me' and file a 'civil suit' against me for 'defamation and character ruin' because I claimed that she had stolen from a client before ( and it's true). But the said statement no longer exists, it was deleted. Honestly, I just want to hear legal sides of the issue. I personally don't think it's possible. You can sue someone over anything, that's granted, but for another escort in a marginally legal business to say " She said I stole from a trick" seems almost comical. Going into an attorney's office and saying " Hi, I'm an escort, and there's this other girl who said I stole from her...and I want to file a lawsuit against her."

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

SJ, for the most part, I find your legal opinions and posts to be very informative and sound advice. However, in this instance, I have to beg to differ with you. If said individual contacts the right people (i.e. the vice squad) in any particular city, I'd bet they'd do more than just yawn. While they may not make apprehending alluringava a top priority, they just might put her name/picture on their BOLO sheets for the time period she is going to be in their fine city. This is low hanging fruit for them. It only takes them five minutes to check out the information in the tip. I'm sure the vice squad has some sick fucks who enjoy getting on the internet to surf for this type of activity. I know that where I live, rumor has it that a certain local LEA will surf BackPage and run stings on providers who advertise on BP. Who knows what other sites police are willing to surf. An anonymous tip just makes their surfing more interesting.

Okay, let me get this straight. Provider A calls in an anonymous tip to the DPD vice squad and tells the cops Provider B's real name. Vice gets an image of Provider B and gives it to cops on the beat. How exactly does this motivate the police to pursue Provider B more than Providers C through ZZZ advertising on BP, CL, ECCIE, P411, etc., etc., etc.? I think the police would likely think the tipster had a grudge against Provider B. Based on your scenario, DPD wouldn't have any evidence of prostitution other than the tip (if you want to call that evidence). At least with Providers C through ZZZ they have them depicted in ads. Nah, I'm sticking with my original opinion.

[omakase]

Originally Posted by alluringava

She got banned from this board and I can easily get a subpoena for the deleted threatening, outing posts that she made if she wants to go to war.

I'm concerned about you wanting or willing to subpoena EECIE. Nobody wants to be dragged into somebody else's legal battle, especially a third-party forum. If this person is threatening or harassing you, then you should consider alternative methods (including changing your contact information or blocking her number/e-mail) that do not necessarily involve courts or lawyers.

[alluringava]

Originally Posted by confused95

I'm concerned about you wanting or willing to subpoena EECIE. Nobody wants to be dragged into somebody else's legal battle, especially a third-party forum. If this person is threatening or harassing you, then you should consider alternative methods (including changing your contact information or blocking her number/e-mail) that do not necessarily involve courts or lawyers.

Then how am I going to get any proof that she threatened ME? The threat was made directly on a comment here that was posted. She's a nutcase and the only written proof I have was here on the board. Seriously? You shouldn't be concerned about that. Legally, she herself has very little if ANY ground at all to do anything.

[guest043013-2]

Ava,

I think it may be time for you to take a break, look at other career opportunities that may be beckoning.

As far as the issues here, it could be a real interesting case.

First, she has to prove the statements.
Second, She has to prove the statements were not true.
Third, she has to prove damages. I would love to see her put forth what her damages were in a case like this. Basically, she needs to prove a loss of income attributed to an illegal enterprise, prostitution. Those damages would be thrown out of court as against public policy I believe.

[ShysterJon]

Originally Posted by alluringava

Then how am I going to get any proof that she threatened ME? The threat was made directly on a comment here that was posted. She's a nutcase and the only written proof I have was here on the board. Seriously? You shouldn't be concerned about that. Legally, she herself has very little if ANY ground at all to do anything.

Why not ask the mods for hard copy of the threatening post? They may give you what you want without the necessity (as well as the bother and expense) of a subpoena.