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07-20-2010, 10:56 PM
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Nashville Sucks
I have been in the hobby for the better part of my life. I grew up in Nashville and have always enjoyed the women of Nashville....that is until this last weekend. I must say that compared to other cities, Nashville has a bad case of "golden pussy" based upon a few observations while looking at BP. Most of the review sites have so few reviews or they are of traveling providers little information was obtained there. That is why BP was used.
1) Prices - I realize that I come from the Sam's Club Pussy Market of the country - DALLAS - and the right price is what clients are willing to pay. I was loaded fully prepared to pay the $200-$250 for a massage or even the $300 for FS, but honestly, if you never answer your email or your phones, it doesn't matter what I want to spend. I called and left messages with over a dozen providers and NEVER did anyone return my calls.
2) Email appointments - This has got to be the most ridiculous marketing ploy known to mankind. It goes like this in Nashville -
"I am in town and was wondering what your schedule looks like"
Response the next day "What day and time would you like?"
"I was think about something today or this evening"
Response the next day "Sure that sounds good. Whats your number and I will call you"
"That was yesterday. What about today or tomorrow?"
Response the next day - "What day and time is good for you?"
Half of the ads only list an email address. No phone numbers
The other half list a phone number but do not answer or call back.
3) 24/7 ? You have to be kidding me. I called at 9AM, 3PM, 12 midnight.......no one answers.
When do you guys actually work?
This does not even count the one provider that checked out my P411 references, set the appointment a week in advance, and when I asked if we could move it up an hour she went ballistic. She agreed to see me the next morning and then, even though she had my number, emailed me the next morning to cancel. Great customer service. I even asked what happened and no answer.
I cannot help but wonder how much business you lose due to your inability to answer phone calls and emails in a timely manner. Once the background check is done, then get on the phone and set something up.
At least I was able to pick up a dancer at one of the local clubs. I was fully prepared to see 3-4 good providers this last weekend, but all I saw was high demand and no supply.
Is there no shame in Nashville anymore?
Someone tell me how it works in Nashville. Obviously BP is not to be trusted. The Golden Pussy List from ECCIE did not work. Phones did not work, ads were not answered.......Dallas sure spoils you.......
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07-20-2010, 11:50 PM
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Sorry to hear you had a bad time in Nashville. There are some great ladies there. (Even better clients - lol)
Nash is hot. H.O.T. Probably has a lot to do with it.
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07-21-2010, 07:53 AM
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Simply Irish
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Sorry to hear that! I will back from soon and will stop thru there for a day or two to hang with some local girlfriends, I know a few reputable ladies there and were good friends Its wierd that no one answered though, make sure le was not involved this week I agree with bebee Nash is very hot!.Im still waiting for replies to sent emails earlier. let ya jnow when I knw.
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07-21-2010, 05:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 19, 2010
Location: Nashville TN
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Nashville has become strange since the bust a few years ago. No one trusts anyone anymore here... I know I don't! I'm just getting to where I'll see locals again...
Times sure have changed here....
Sad cause Nashville is an awesome town
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07-21-2010, 07:35 PM
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Hope things turnaround and I hope boards like ECCIE are helping the situation
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07-21-2010, 08:03 PM
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sorry that happened to ya babe...
There are several great providers go to Nashville--Babee/Tammy/Bliss/etc to name a few
Just don't give up,be patient and you will suceed!!!
I was there a couple weeks ago....
I do not think I was one you tried to contact,but if it was I apologize....I try to answer all mails & phone calls{if one slips by me guys,plz forgive me}
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07-24-2010, 07:04 PM
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I don't know who you are contacting but maturity goes a long way in my book. Just because a girl is out of your price range does not mean she should be labeled of having a golden ...... Just because she refuses to lower her standards, does not mean it correlates with her sexual performance lol. I would think if she is charging that much you might actually get that return email and her reviews would be infinite. There is a reason I would never travel to TX lol.
I have never made less than 5k in Nashville even when the area just had busts the week before, so the money is there. Even on BP I found a lot of Doctors who didn't know about sites like TER and Eros, so they only used BP.
I can tell you this...if someone emails me whom I have never met and know nothing about, he better include his references or there will be NO response. Not saying you took that apporach, but if you ever saw a provider's inbox you would know why we can't spend all day replying to bs emails.
You pretty much stated you were willing to pay this for a massage, and that for fs...well there ya go. You are limited right there, because I don't know many high end girls who will offer discounts to someone on the first time.
Megan Love, Ashlyn Allure, Jordyn of Ky, Dallas, Babee, Kymberly, Sierra....all these ladies are reasonable and prompt in their correspondence, and they are all right around the area or touring it. All I can say is that if BP is not delivering, try another board lol.
The reason most of us use the email only option, is because we don't appreciate being called at 2 a.m. on a school night! Also, more than half of the guys who prefer to call are the ones who also want to book "NOW."
Umm I don't do last minute and like you said waiting around on your references to clear via email is not happening NOW lol. Even with 2 phones, you have to have the hobby phone on at least vibrate when you are planning a tour...how else would guys call for the hotel? If guys would not take advantage of this, more women might list a number.
It's also annoying to get random text messages when you are with your boyfriend, from a guy you saw last month! NOT appropriate! The number is supposed to be for the details of the appt. not an invitation to shoot the sh9t on.
I answer emails prompty(less than an hour) from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. at which time I am usually in class or at work....After that, I am asleep lol. I even have a blackberry which I think every provider should have, for those "in class" emails.
Many girls on BP are first timers, flakes, rip offs, drug addicts etc. They really don't care what you want until they need money, so that's what you are dealing with. I know I would never pay more than x amount for any provider without a solid, consistent review history, and those reviews better touch on her response skills outside of the bedroom.
I hope your luck changes honey, but you may want to just leave BP alone unless she has a link to her reviews lol.
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07-25-2010, 11:12 PM
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You sound as if you really have your act together. Thanks for the comments.
For the record, I looked on the two largest and most respected review boards in the hobby.....ECCIE and ERAPS. I even looked on Horndogs. TER reviews IMHO are basically worthless since there is no editing or commenting allowed. The ability to ask others about a provider makes a review site such as this one of the best. I did notice you had NO reviews in Nashville on any of the big sites. You should let some of us good ole Texas Boys help you out.....
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Originally Posted by London Rayne
I don't know who you are contacting but maturity goes a long way in my book. Just because a girl is out of your price range does not mean she should be labeled of having a golden ...... Just because she refuses to lower her standards, does not mean it correlates with her sexual performance lol. I would think if she is charging that much you might actually get that return email and her reviews would be infinite. There is a reason I would never travel to TX lol.
I have never made less than 5k in Nashville even when the area just had busts the week before, so the money is there. Even on BP I found a lot of Doctors who didn't know about sites like TER and Eros, so they only used BP.
I can tell you this...if someone emails me whom I have never met and know nothing about, he better include his references or there will be NO response. Not saying you took that apporach, but if you ever saw a provider's inbox you would know why we can't spend all day replying to bs emails.
You pretty much stated you were willing to pay this for a massage, and that for fs...well there ya go. You are limited right there, because I don't know many high end girls who will offer discounts to someone on the first time.
Megan Love, Ashlyn Allure, Jordyn of Ky, Dallas, Babee, Kymberly, Sierra....all these ladies are reasonable and prompt in their correspondence, and they are all right around the area or touring it. All I can say is that if BP is not delivering, try another board lol.
The reason most of us use the email only option, is because we don't appreciate being called at 2 a.m. on a school night! Also, more than half of the guys who prefer to call are the ones who also want to book "NOW."
Umm I don't do last minute and like you said waiting around on your references to clear via email is not happening NOW lol. Even with 2 phones, you have to have the hobby phone on at least vibrate when you are planning a tour...how else would guys call for the hotel? If guys would not take advantage of this, more women might list a number.
It's also annoying to get random text messages when you are with your boyfriend, from a guy you saw last month! NOT appropriate! The number is supposed to be for the details of the appt. not an invitation to shoot the sh9t on.
I answer emails prompty(less than an hour) from 8 a.m. to 10 p.m. at which time I am usually in class or at work....After that, I am asleep lol. I even have a blackberry which I think every provider should have, for those "in class" emails.
Many girls on BP are first timers, flakes, rip offs, drug addicts etc. They really don't care what you want until they need money, so that's what you are dealing with. I know I would never pay more than x amount for any provider without a solid, consistent review history, and those reviews better touch on her response skills outside of the bedroom.
I hope your luck changes honey, but you may want to just leave BP alone unless she has a link to her reviews lol.
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07-26-2010, 07:41 AM
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ECCIE, ERAPS are nationwide - but they dominate in only TX. TN is BigDoggie country.
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07-26-2010, 07:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by London Rayne
I can tell you this...if someone emails me whom I have never met and know nothing about, he better include his references or there will be NO response. Not saying you took that apporach, but if you ever saw a provider's inbox you would know why we can't spend all day replying to bs emails.
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word................
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07-26-2010, 07:51 AM
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lol well unfortunately our opinions differ on what we like from a review board...I prefer there be no banter back and forth. I have nearly 100 reviews throughout the U.S. by respected, long time hobbyists who don't feel the need to further rip our time to pieces behind my back. I am also in the top 25 nationwide and that's enough for me. It's not a contest in my book.
For some reason everytime I visit Nashville or Knoxville, this poor moderator on TBD has every guy out of the wood work asking him about our time together...even though his 10/10 review says it all lol. The guys who review me don't appreciate all the drama and back channel bs afterwards and quite frankly neither do I. I have been successful for almost 3 years without having to subject myself to that. I am lucky that my gentlemen friends more often than not, ASK me if and where I would like a review.
I am not one to screw certain board members just for popularity or to add more reviews to my list. If my reputation does not already speak for itself, I really have no interest in adding another notch in my bed post if you will. It's no secret I am low volume, and I am VERY picky about who I see. I don't want reviews from guys who can't even spell lol.
I feel at this point I really don't even need any more reviews...at least not anymore explicit ones. I have already established a reputation for being on time, prompt email responses, only upscale incalls, drug free, always impeccably dressed and groomed, and consistently showing my guests a time to remember...I am happy with the volume I have now.
The reason I don't visit Texas though I have had many requests, is the same reason you touched on. It's a market where 18 year old super models are struggling to make 250-300 an hour, and I am not one to lower my rates for people I don't know. When I tour I am turning clients away even at $400, so I simply go where the demand is and people are willing to pay the price.
Honestly Nashville and Knoxville have been my most profitable cities and if you want reviews of girls there, I suggest you look on the boards where most of the TN men actually hang out...that would be tbd and e.com. You will find they have tons of reviews too, not just one or two of the same girl lol. My listing on TER and TBD are both in New Orleans, not Nashville...you will have to actually look for key words to know what city I was in at the time of the review, but my last 14 reviews were from TN lol.
You have to realize different boards are more prevelant with members in certain locations. My nola business comes straight from TER, whereas my major suitors in the TN and KY areas are from e.com and tbd. For St. Louis it's stlasp. All you have to do is look at the number of hits on the ads, and that will let you know whether the people are in a certain place or not.
Babee nailed it...Baton Rouge and Texas are big business here...neither of which I care to entertain.
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07-26-2010, 08:11 AM
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HELL's bell ringer!!
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I did really REALLY well with escortsdotcom when i toured THERE
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07-26-2010, 08:17 AM
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I did really REALLY well with escortsdotcom when i toured THERE
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And you Will my love. TBD has always been my number 1 for that area, as well as D.C. TN, and KY. Ohio I do well with just Eros and Indy's, but didn't really like Cincy.
It's all about where the money and the gentleman are at. If guys are not willing to pay higher rates, there is no wonder some of us have so few reviews on certain boards lol.
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07-27-2010, 05:29 AM
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Don't think it pays provider or client to "put all their eggs in one basket" regarding forums or boards. Seems to become some type of inbreed circle jerk mentality that implodes when the moon is right.
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07-27-2010, 07:12 AM
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I understand that there are different boards for reviews and that Nashville might not use the same ones I do. References have been made to EROS which from Dallas standards is one of the biggest crap shoots around in that very few of the pictures are of the actual providers hence either agencies or bait and switch. The other review boards such as TER are worthless since they allow no discussion, no checks and balances, no verification that the review is in fact legitimate.
I say all of this to simply to make this point. It is not an issue of providers being more expensive in Nashville, it is not about who I should have called or not called. The problem is that there is an apparent disconnect with customer service from the standpoint of actually wanting to work. If your phone rings SOMETIMES you may be busy, can't return the call, etc. But MOST of the time you had better make it a point to return those calls since your best session was your LAST session. All future sales are based upon THOSE phone calls. It wasn't happening in Nashville this particular weekend.
You can argue that I was calling the wrong providers. Maybe so, but statistically there should have been a small percentage of providers responding and there wasn't. My statement of Nashville being "broke" was based upon this idea......if you advertise.....you should respond to inquiries.....regardless of where you advertise.
It all works out in the end as those sessions I could have had in Nashville, I simply had when I got back to Dallas. Its all good.
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