OBAMA'S CLAIM OF HISTORICAL GREATNESS - YOU DECIDE....

[Whirlaway]

Recently Obama claimed that his presidency has been in the top 4 in American history; greater than Washington, and just below Lincoln.




I am curious what you all think...........

[gnadfly]

I couldn't vote for complete disaster.

Remember BHO:

- ordered OBL killed after almost 3 years of life on his watch
- pulled the USA troops (generally) out of Iraq albeit on the Bush II timeline.
- had American Al Awlaki killed (without due process)
- despite whining like a bitch renewed the Bush tax cuts
- did something to help oust Khaddafi and eventually have him killed

There are numerous fuck ups. Even some of the positives have huge negatives, like we have no clue as to whether the Khaddafi replacement will be cooperative with our goals.

Generally, after about a year, BHO followed many of the policy and procedures of Bush II's GWOT without the liberal media and Democratic Socialist pressure of not fighting a "politically correct war." If Bush II had been able to fight those two wars without the left backbiting, they would have been over on his term and OBL would be dead.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Recently Obama claimed that his presidency has been in the top 4 in American history; greater than Washington, and just below Lincoln.




I am curious what you all think...........

I am still curious of who you voted for in 2008 and why you have such a hard on for Obama?

[MrGiz]

I am still curious.... given early poll results... how you can possibly continue to support him!!

[WTF]

I'm curious why you are curious

[waverunner234]

Originally Posted by MrGiz

I am still curious.... given early poll results... how you can possibly continue to support him!!

Even Bill Clinton (which is I consider a very wise man) told Bill O'Reilly this week he is going to vote for Obama.

[wellendowed1911]

Originally Posted by MrGiz

I am still curious.... given early poll results... how you can possibly continue to support him!!

Until there's a better choice or option I will vote for him- believe what you want by I am an Independent- I honestly do not like the republican platform. In terms of Obama I don't like everything he has done- and there's not going to be any President where I will agree on everything, but in my opinion Obama had a brick wall against him and he had many great ideas t the table but there are those on the other side who are hell bent on seeing him fail- so he gets my vote.

[MrGiz]

First & Worst.... all in one!!

[CuteOldGuy]

Well, Gary Johnson announced that he is pulling out of the Republican primaries to seek the nomination of the Libertarian Party. That's who I'm supporting. Choosing between Obama and Romney or Gingrich or Perry is like choosing between being hemlock or arsenic.

[Jackie S]

COG, regardless of whether we like it or not, as long as the Electorial System is in play, a vote for any candidate other than the Republican Candidate is a vote for President Obama.

The Democrat Nominee is guaranteed no less than 40 percent of the popular vote. In large swing States where every vote, and I mean every vote, counts, we simply cannot afford the luxury of 'voting our concience'.

That is, unless the ultimate aim is to re-elect President Obama.

[freakscene]

Originally Posted by waverunner234

Even Bill Clinton (which is I consider a very wise man) told Bill O'Reilly this week he is going to vote for Obama.

And this is somehow relevant, because?

A former Democrat President, supporting a sitting Democrat President on a National "news" show is hardly worth posting.

[waverunner234]

Originally Posted by Jackie S

That is, unless the ultimate aim is to re-elect President Obama.

And with the current GOP clowns, that of course is the ultimate goal

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Recently Obama claimed that his presidency has been in the top 4 in American history; greater than Washington, and just below Lincoln.




I am curious what you all think...........

I think I want to see a link to the statement.
When, where, and who to was this statement made?

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Munchmasterman

I think I want to see a link to the statement.
When, where, and who to was this statement made?

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_1...ingLeadStories

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70684.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70273.html

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

www.cbsnews.com/8301-504803_162-57341009-10391709/president-obama-the-full-60-minutes-interview/?tag=contentBody;listingLeadSt ories

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70684.html

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1211/70273.html

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Recently Obama claimed that his presidency has been in the top 4 in American history; greater than Washington, and just below Lincoln.




I am curious what you all think...........

I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president — with the possible exceptions of Johnson, F.D.R., and Lincoln — just in terms of what we’ve gotten done in modern history

He claimed that in 2 areas/categories, his presidency was as good as any of the previous presidencies with the noted exception of 3. Notice that the bloggers jumped on the same thing whirly did. He clearly stated 2 of many possible categories.
Mischaracterized or a lie by the pundits?
Bad when best case is that they are stupid.

“You have got to be kidding. … After destroying the American economy,That's why Bush did TARPs? tripling the national deficit The debt was 10.6 when he took office. It is now 15.1, blowing a trillion dollars on a failed stimulus planNot failed according to the CBO and nearly doubling the unemployment rateIt was 7.8 when Obama took office and it's 8.6 now http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000, Barack Obama told “60 Minutes” last week that he considered himself the 4th best president in US history. Unbelievable. (Is this guy out to lunch or what?),” Hoft wrote

This cock-swallowing piece of shit didn't get a single fact right he posted. Of course he's a blogger which in this case means he's a lying POS.

It's like I have said so many times. There are enough real issues to discuss. This coward hides behind the op/ed label, which means he has no obligation to tell the truth.

His readers believe him without checking.

Ignorance begot of ignorance.