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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy
Whoop-de-fucking-doo. And you voted against freedom every time.
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Me too! I would vote against your definition (if indeed you had ever bothered to define what you think of as freedom) aof "freedom" almost very time. I"m sure that there are some aspects of "Freedom" that we do agree on, but probably not most.
I used to consider myself a bit of an anarchist (which seems to be what most libertarians really are) but I was really a utopian and then I grew up. The thought that a modern society/country or even modern businesses can operate well without government is purely fantasy. A purely capitalist laissez- faire society may sound cool, but is unlikely to actually work in the real world at all. All you Libertarians seem to want to go back to some fantasy time that never or barely existed where government was minimal and fairness and opportunity was equal for all. From my study of history it seems those things have always been pretty much mutually exclusive, but if you have a good example, please enlighten me.
There never was a time when government wasn't involved in the economy (government created money and economy unless you are talking puka shells as currency) and for most of human history, under kings, the government and the church
WERE the economy for the most part. I'm as skeptical of government as the next rational person, but to think you can get rid of it all but the military and border security and compete with other advanced nations without cratering the country is just plain absurd.
COG, when you are ready to define your freedom or actually talk about reality all us "libtards" are ready. That is what we've been trying to do all along!
Who actually votes?
