Alert ! FYI

[beyondthere]

So for you old timers from the SWC days here is the snitch/rat who verified LE to get on the site. She also gave them handle names and any real life info she had on members who had seen her.

Pretty ballsy for her to come back.

For those of you who don't know what I am talking about. Don't worry about what I am referencing. Just stay away.

https://albuquerque.skipthegames.com...t/787530349972

https://albuquerque.skipthegames.com...w/327014173719

https://albuquerque.skipthegames.com...a/918092433587

[Diego Smith]

Thanks for the heads-up, Beyond.

[seasonedvet]

Thanks!

[carguy1989]

Many thanks

[desertfish]

To be fair, she was not the only one that “sang”. I think a lot of us will do the same if threatened with jail time. I am defending her because not only that I like tall blondes, the system is really targets providers in a very unfair manner. Here is a link to the story in the days when high end escorts charged $300 (Lilith/Lily is asking $700 today.)

https://www.krqe.com/news/inside-the...-girl-website/

[SaulGoodman]

10 year reunion in the works?��

[beyondthere]

Originally Posted by desertfish

To be fair, she was not the only one that “sang”. I think a lot of us will do the same if threatened with jail time. I am defending her because not only that I like tall blondes, the system is really targets providers in a very unfair manner. Here is a link to the story in the days when high end escorts charged $300 (Lilith/Lily is asking $700 today.)

https://www.krqe.com/news/inside-the...-girl-website/

The system did not target the providers in this case. Only one retired provider(and former owner of the site) who made threats on the site toward Sweet Seduction was the only one arrested for the threats of bodily harm). 3 other ladies were questioned and were asked to open and allow LE to access their computers. A couple of other providers were questioned and did not co-operate.

Sweet Seduction was up against the NM 3 strikes rule and looking at 10 yrs. in jail. Only the last of the 3 charges was prostitution related. She volunteered to help LE infiltrate the site. She was not charged, arrested or spent any jail time. 5 men were arrested. 4 of the 4 had 105 (yeah I know a crazy number) felony charges against them being put forth to the Grand Jury. All 4 were looking at a minumum of 5 years plus steep fines. Luckily the DA office didn't really have a case. ( Not just the 1951 (1921 was wrong info) prostitution statutes, but also they didn't really have a case other than petty misdemeanor charges for solicitation. It did though ruin the careers, family, friends, social network etc. for the 4 men. None of the ladies careers were impacted. Most kept on doing what they were doing.

Yes, I agree many times the ladies are targeted. Generally though LE is looking more for human trafficking, underage girls and drug distribution associated with the prostitution scene. They could care less about independent providers who run a clean business.

This situation the men were targeted. The site was NO different than the one we are using here.

If you want to see her and put yourself at risk. Have at it. The alert was to give information for gents to have facts about whether to see a lady or not.

PS. None of those women were getting $300 back then. Again another case of LE and media inflated numbers. Yes, the numbers many are asking for today are crazy. Cost of living has not multiplied that much over the last 10 years. There were some traveling ladies back then that were asking $300 and are still around and now asking $600. Shaking my head over those numbers. Has Fosta/Sesta had that much impact? Who knows? I am not a micro or macro economics major. I just know I have to work damn hard for $600 dollars.

[joyote]

Originally Posted by desertfish

.....not the only one that “sang”. I think a lot of us will do the same if threatened with jail time.....

Not me. I promised myself, when I started this...
I am not giving ANYone up, EVER
That is the only way I can live with myself

I knew a provider who was picked up, 10yrs ago
According to her story, which I do not doubt,
1st the detective had a session with her
then, instead of paying, showed his badge & gun
then hauled her downtown
They threatened her, saying, cooperate or we throw the book at you

She told them,
“You do whatever you have to do. I’m not cooperating”

they cut her loose with no charges

when I used to watch COPS on tv, I saw it many times...
cops roll up on 2 or more “offenders”
they separate them, and tell each that the other has flipped
or they announce to the group, something like,
“1st one to tell the truth gets to go home”

In the end, invariably, they all go to jail

imo opinion, the honorable AND practical policy is...
if you get swept up...
clam up. lawyer up. stay calm. be polite. don’t give ANYone up

[joyote]

I rang her recently, early one morning (her ad says 24/7)
before this connection to the former Sweet Seduction

she picked up. I said, “you’re awake!”
she said yeah, but going to sleep, now

I said ok, I will call some other time,
but she hung up before I finished saying it

I would describe her manner as abrupt, curt
I got a whiff of gps. Over the phone, yeah!

I had already made up my mind, not to be calling back
before this report came in

[Diego Smith]

I actually am an economics major, lol, and yes, FOSTA/SESTA is responsible for the uptick in prices. Price is a function of the interaction of supply and demand, and there isn't much supply these days. So horny old guys pay more for scarce bad pussy than they paid for plentiful good pussy 4 years ago. And it is because F/S shut down review sites and killed advertising opportunities.

I don't know as much about Albuquerque as many of you, because the first 6 years of my hobby life were spent traveling. But from what I DO know -- we seemed to always have 2-4 SOLID local providers and a couple of those were stars. Those prices checked in from 225ish to 350 -- for a very generous hour. We had several superstars over a 5-7 year period at 500ish, and a couple were less! Then the traveling ladies -- I can think of 10+ top notch regional and national travelers who were outstanding GFE providers and most of them were 300-400. And that doesn't even count the touring agency gals.

So with that kind of quality, and solid second-tier providers at 200 per hour, the guys had WAY more options and prices were pushed downward (overall -- great was still higher than very good and very good was still higher than good). Now, with numbers down, no advertising system, no review system, women with even a marginally good reputation can charge 200 for a half hour, and the very few touring ladies can charge A LOT. Beyond's specific example is literal - one very well-known provider who has been traveling here for years....she's not as pretty as she was, and her service is probably about the same, but her prices have doubled. And it's because demand has way outstripped supply.

And I don't see a solution, btw, as long as quality advertising and quality reviewing is as hard to come by as it is. There is just no reasonable way for women to get the word out and prove their worth to the reasonably suspicious gentlemen that are their target.

[Kvothe]

Originally Posted by beyondthere

So for you old timers from the SWC days here is the snitch/rat who verified LE to get on the site. She also gave them handle names and any real life info she had on members who had seen her.

Pretty ballsy for her to come back.

For those of you who don't know what I am talking about. Don't worry about what I am referencing. Just stay away.

https://albuquerque.skipthegames.com...t/787530349972

https://albuquerque.skipthegames.com...w/327014173719

https://albuquerque.skipthegames.com...a/918092433587

How certain are you of the ID? Is there more than just the images? I just compared her with some old images I have of Sweet Seduction aka Debora Leonard and I am not sure.

[SweetNikki505]

I don't think that is Deborah Innis guys. She was 51 ten years ago. Doubtful she would look as fresh as the woman in those ads does, especially now at 61. I mean unless she's a photoshop wizard lol. Btw her and her cohort Juicy Gwin were never $300, they came along and lowered the bar to the ridiculous $60-$80 rates. I recall that very well. Smh

[beyondthere]

I may be wrong. I do think it is her. She looked much younger than 51 ten years ago. Photoshopping can make anyone look much younger. This lady looks like her and she is using the same username/handle. My gut says it's her.

Maybe I will book an appointment and find out for myself.

[SweetNikki505]

You know what after looking at another ad with more pictures, you might very well be right Beyond. Those photos are heavily photoshopped, and one that I didn't see before does look very familiar. I never saw the woman in real life just in pictures back then. Wow if it is, she has real nerve coming back after all the trouble she sparked... Smh

[carguy1989]

I had met a coupe or three of the ladies from SWC and none of them were anywhere near the cost stated in that article. I was NOT part of any club. I just made a call and the experience was pretty much like that of any agency. I quit them when one lady showed up and I seriously thought she was under age. Gave her cancellation money and wished her well. The human deification hit the rotating oscillating device 3 - 4 weeks later. I was sweating bricks for some time, but learned lots about being smart and safe in this hobby