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Old 02-22-2013, 02:59 AM   #1
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The movie Seven Days in May was on TV tonight and I always am amazed at how much things have changed. In case you are not aware of the plot. A popular Air Force general played by Burt Lancaster is going to overthrow the government of the US. He has become convinced that the world is too dangerous of a place for the US to not play hardball. His aid played by Kirk Douglas becomes aware of the plot and takes the information up the chain of command to the White House. They can't order Lancaster to stand down and they can't order his co-conspirators to not "play the wargames" that will disguise the coup. They try to get evidence of the plot but fail until the end (spoiler). It appears the only thing that can derail the general are some letters that the married general carried on an illicit affair with a woman with a past. The revelation of an extramarital affair was the "silver bullet" that could stop a coup. We have officials having sex with children, texting their junk to minors, carrying on affairs with people who endanger national security, and no one seems to care. That is IF they are democrats.
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The timing of the Petraeus' sex scandal and resignation, as it relates to the Benghazi incident, makes me wonder if high level military people may get promoted because of a history of illicit sexual activity, known to the FBI, but not known publicly. It would certainly give the commander in chief the ability to use them as puppets.
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get a life.... didn't you just comment?
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That movie is from the past.

It was really good when it came out, but it's only a relic now.

. . . I'd prefer to watch a current James Bond movie than a dated black and white.
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You are apparently pretty easily amazed.

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The movie Seven Days in May was on TV tonight and I always am amazed at how much things have changed. In case you are not aware of the plot. A popular Air Force general played by Burt Lancaster is going to overthrow the government of the US. He has become convinced that the world is too dangerous of a place for the US to not play hardball. His aid played by Kirk Douglas becomes aware of the plot and takes the information up the chain of command to the White House. They can't order Lancaster to stand down and they can't order his co-conspirators to not "play the wargames" that will disguise the coup. They try to get evidence of the plot but fail until the end (spoiler). It appears the only thing that can derail the general are some letters that the married general carried on an illicit affair with a woman with a past. The revelation of an extramarital affair was the "silver bullet" that could stop a coup. We have officials having sex with children, texting their junk to minors, carrying on affairs with people who endanger national security, and no one seems to care. That is IF they are democrats.
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The tenor and weirdness of your posts makes me wonder if you fell down and hit your head recently.


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Schindler's List will be playing this weekend. Too bad it is about the past and in black and white. Despite winning an Oscar I guess it is no good now. Isn't that what you just said Fast Gunn? Maybe you should get in contact with Gene Siskel...yes, he is dead now that you mention it. I guess you'll have to go out of your way for that interview.
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The Manchurian Candidate (1962 film)

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This article is about the original 1962 film. For the 2004 remake, see The Manchurian Candidate (2004 film).
The Manchurian CandidateDirected byJohn FrankenheimerProduced byGeorge Axelrod
John FrankenheimerScreenplay byGeorge AxelrodBased onThe Manchurian Candidate by
Richard CondonNarrated byPaul FreesStarringFrank Sinatra
Laurence Harvey
Janet Leigh
Angela Lansbury
Henry Silva
James GregoryMusic byDavid AmramCinematographyLionel LindonEditing byFerris WebsterDistributed byUnited ArtistsRelease date(s)
  • October 24, 1962 (1962-10-24)
Running time126 minutesCountryUnited StatesLanguageEnglishBudget$2. 2 millionBox office$7,716,923[1]The Manchurian Candidate is a 1962 American Cold War suspense thriller film directed by John Frankenheimer from a screenplay by George Axelrod based on Richard Condon's 1959 novel. It stars Frank Sinatra, Laurence Harvey and Janet Leigh and features Angela Lansbury, Henry Silva, and James Gregory.
The central concept of the film is that the son of a prominent, right-wing political family has been brainwashed as an unwitting assassin for an international Communist conspiracy. The Manchurian Candidate was nationally released on Wednesday, October 24, 1962, at the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis. The film was critically acclaimed, and was nominated for two Academy Awards.

Plot

During the Korean War, the Soviets capture an American platoon and take them to Manchuria in Communist China. After the war, the soldiers return to the United States, and Staff Sergeant Raymond Shaw (Laurence Harvey) is credited with saving their lives in combat. Upon the recommendation of the platoon's commander, Captain Bennett Marco (Frank Sinatra), Shaw is awarded the Medal of Honor for his supposed heroism. When asked to describe him, Marco and the other soldiers automatically respond, "Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." Deep down, however, they know that Shaw is a cold, sad, unsympathetic loner.
Marco, who has since been promoted to Major, suffers from a recurring nightmare in which a hypnotized Shaw blithely and brutally murders two fellow soldiers before the assembled military brass of Communist nations, during a practical demonstration of a revolutionary brainwashing technique. Marco wants to investigate, but receives no support from Army Intelligence as he has no solid evidence to back his remarkable claims. However, Marco learns that another soldier from the platoon, Allen Melvin (James Edwards), has had the same nightmare. When Melvin and Marco separately identify some of the men in the dream as leading figures in communist governments, Army Intelligence agrees to help Marco investigate.

Sgt. Shaw (Harvey, left) meets Major Marco (Sinatra, right), after having jumped into a lake in Central Park, New York


Meanwhile, Shaw's mother, Mrs. Eleanor Iselin (Angela Lansbury), drives the political career of her husband and Shaw's stepfather, Senator John Yerkes Iselin (James Gregory), a McCarthy-like demagogue who is widely dismissed as a fool. Senator Iselin finds a newfound political profile when he claims that varying numbers of Communists work within the Defense Department. However, unknown to Raymond, Mrs. Iselin is actually a Communist agent with a plan intended to secure the presidency under Communist influence.
Mrs. Iselin is the American "operator" responsible for controlling Raymond, who was conditioned in Manchuria to be an unwitting assassin whose actions are triggered by a Queen of Diamonds playing card. When he sees it, he will blindly obey the next suggestion or order given to him. When given instructions to kill selected targets, he must also kill any witnesses and never remember his actions, making him the perfect assassin. It is revealed that Shaw's heroism was a false memory implanted in the platoon by the Communists in Manchuria, and that they were covertly returned to the American lines when their conditioning was completed; the actions for which Shaw was awarded his Medal of Honor never took place.
Raymond briefly finds happiness when he rekindles a youthful romance with Jocelyn Jordan (Leslie Parrish), the daughter of Senator Thomas Jordan (John McGiver), one of his stepfather's political rivals. Raymond had previously courted Jocelyn in order to get back at his mother, but then they genuinely fell in love. Mrs. Iselin broke up the relationship for political reasons, but she now facilitates the couple's reunion as part of her scheme to garner the support of Senator Jordan for her husband's own sudden bid for Vice President.
Jocelyn, wearing a Queen of Diamonds costume outfit, inadvertently hypnotizes Raymond at a costume party thrown by the Iselins, and the couple elopes. Although pleased with the match, Senator Jordan makes it clear to Mrs. Iselin that he will move for her husband's impeachment if he makes any attempt to seek the vice-presidential nomination. Mrs. Iselin triggers Raymond's conditioning and sends him to assassinate Jordan. Raymond carries out his orders and calmly shoots Jocelyn through the forehead when she happens upon the scene. Raymond has no knowledge of his actions and is genuinely grief-stricken when he learns of the murders.
Marco discovers the role of the Queen of Diamonds card in hypnotizing Raymond into committing these atrocities. Marco meets Raymond and, using a deck composed entirely of such cards, he gets the full story. He then verbally drills into Raymond the suggestion or affirmation that the Queen of Diamonds no longer has any power over him. Mrs. Iselin primes her son to assassinate their party's presidential candidate at the nomination convention so that Senator Iselin, as the vice-presidential candidate, will become the presidential candidate by default. This will cause mass hysteria that will get Iselin, "the Manchurian candidate", elected and further justify invocation of emergency powers that, in Mrs. Iselin's words, "will make martial law seem like anarchy". Mrs. Iselin tells Raymond that she did not know that he was to be selected by the Communists, who apparently chose him to be the assassin because they believed it would solidify their control over her. She vows that once in power she will "grind them into the dirt" in revenge.
So Marco's attempt to liberate Raymond from his diabolical conditioning appears to have failed. Raymond enters the convention hall disguised as a Catholic priest and takes up a position to carry out the assassination as he was instructed, using a rifle with a boresighted telescope. Marco and his supervisor, Colonel Milt (Douglas Henderson), arrive at the convention to stop him. As the Presidential nominee (Robert Riordan) makes his speech, Raymond instead takes his revenge and saves the country by shooting his mother and stepfather dead. He then commits suicide in front of Major Marco while wearing his Medal of Honor.
Cast
Production

For the role of Mrs. Iselin, Sinatra had considered Lucille Ball, but Frankenheimer, who had worked with Lansbury in All Fall Down, suggested her for the part[2] and insisted that Sinatra watch the film before making any decisions. (Although Lansbury played Raymond Shaw's mother, she was in fact only three years older than actor Laurence Harvey.)
An early scene where Raymond, recently decorated with the Medal of Honor, argues with his parents was filmed in Sinatra's own private plane.[2]
Janet Leigh plays Marco's love interest. A bizarre conversation on a train between her character and Marco has been interpreted by some—notably film critic Roger Ebert[3][4]—as implying that Leigh's character, Eugenie Rose Chaney, is working for the Communists to activate Marco's brainwashing, much as the Queen of Diamonds activates Shaw's. It is a jarringly strange conversation between people who have only just met, and almost appears to be an exchange of passwords. Frankenheimer himself maintained that he had no idea whether or not "Rosie" was supposed to be an agent of any sort; he merely lifted the train conversation straight from the Condon novel, in which there is no such implication.[2] The rest of the film does not elaborate on Rosie's part and latter scenes suggest that she is simply a romantic foil for Marco.
During the fight scene between Frank Sinatra and Henry Silva, Sinatra broke his hand during a movement where he smashed through a table. This resulted in problems with his hand/fingers for several years and is said to be one of the reasons why he pulled out of a starring role in Dirty Harry, having to undertake surgery to alleviate pains.
The interrogation sequence where Raymond and Marco confront each other in the hotel room opposite the convention is from a rough cut. When first filmed Sinatra was out of focus and when they tried to re-shoot the scene he was simply not as effective as he had been in the first take (a common factor in Sinatra's film performances). Frustrated, Frankenheimer decided in the end to simply use the original out-of-focus takes. Critics praised him for showing Marco from Raymond's distorted point-of-view.[2]
In the novel, Mrs. Iselin uses her son's brainwashing to have sex with him before the climax. Concerned that censors would not allow even a reference to such a taboo subject in a mainstream motion picture of the time, the filmmakers instead opted for Mrs. Iselin to simply kiss Raymond on the lips to imply her incestuous attraction to him.[2]
For the scene in the convention hall prior to the assassination, Frankenheimer was at a loss as to how Marco would pinpoint Raymond Shaw's sniper's nest. Eventually he decided on a method similar to Alfred Hitchcock's Foreign Correspondent (1940). Frankenheimer noted that what would be plagiarism in the 1960s would now be looked upon as an homage.[2]
Frankenheimer also acknowledged the climax's connection with Hitchcock's The Man Who Knew Too Much (1934 and 1956) by naming the Presidential candidate "Benjamin Arthur". Arthur Benjamin was the composer of the Storm Clouds Cantata used in both versions of Hitchcock's film.
Releases

According to rumor, Sinatra removed the film from distribution after the John F. Kennedy assassination on November 22, 1963. Michael Schlesinger, who was responsible for the film's 1988 reissue by MGM/UA, denies the rumor. According to him, the film's apparent withdrawal was not due to the assassination, but due to lack of public interest by 1963. Sinatra's representatives acquired rights to the film in 1972 after the initial contract with United Artists expired, but he later stated that he was unaware of the transaction at the time. After a successful showing at the New York Film Festival in 1987 renewed public interest in the film, the studio reacquired the rights and it became again available for theater and video releases.[5][6]
Reception

Critical response

It has a 98% rating on the Rotten Tomatoes website, based on 49 reviews.[7] Film critic Roger Ebert ranked The Manchurian Candidate as an exemplary "Great Film", declaring that it is "inventive and frisky, takes enormous chances with the audience, and plays not like a 'classic' but as a work as alive and smart as when it was first released".[3]
Awards and honors

Angela Lansbury was nominated for an Academy Award as Best Supporting Actress, and Ferris Webster was nominated for Best Film Editing. In addition, Lansbury was named Best Supporting Actress by the National Board of Review and won the Golden Globe for Best Supporting Actress.
The film was No. 67 on the AFI's "100 Years...100 Movies" when that list was compiled in 1998, but in 2007 a new version of that list was made which excluded The Manchurian Candidate. It was also No. 17 on AFI's "100 Years...100 Thrills" lists. In 1994, The Manchurian Candidate was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as being "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".[8]
In April 2007, Angela Lansbury's character was selected by Newsweek as one of the ten greatest villains in cinema history.
American Film Institute recognitionOn the DVD audio commentary of the film, the director stated his belief that it contained the first-ever karate fight in an American motion picture. This is true inasmuch as this was the first fight scene in an American film in which a karateka–a studied practitioner–faced off against a karateka; however, the 1955 MGM film Bad Day at Black Rock featured a fight scene between a conventional fighter, played by Ernest Borgnine, and a karate expert, played by Spencer Tracy.
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I saw that movie for the first time last month. That is a GREAT movie. How could a Ozombie like a movie like that. They would not like the fact that a USA Patriot beat their ASS! ...
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Yeah. Casablanca was a complete bore in B&W. As was Citizen Kane.
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Yeah. Casablanca was a complete bore in B&W. As was Citizen Kane.
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And that silent, black and white French movie, "The Artist", was a complete flop at last year's Academy Awards!
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Schindler's List will be playing this weekend. Too bad it is about the past and in black and white. Despite winning an Oscar I guess it is no good now. Isn't that what you just said Fast Gunn? Maybe you should get in contact with Gene Siskel...yes, he is dead now that you mention it. I guess you'll have to go out of your way for that interview.
Well, let's just get it out in the open JD. Where are the camps that Obama has set up? Or, more to the point, where do you suspect they are? You fucking insane idiot.
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I found Manchurian Candidate to be a better movie than Seven Days in May, but I also found that the individual books were better than the movies.
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