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Whirlaway · 10-10-2012, 08:08 AM

Obama told Americans that the Taliban's momentum has been slowed, saying "The goal that I set — to defeat al-Qaeda, and deny it a chance to rebuild — is within reach."

But the truth is completely different....

http://www.therightscoop.com/must-wa...n-afghanistan/

And more evidence of the renewed Taliban grip (fear and intimidation with violence) on Afghanistan; the attempted assassination of a young girl who was trying to get an education....

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/10/wo...i-taliban.html

markroxny · 10-10-2012, 08:13 AM

First, al-Qaeda and the Taliban are 2 separate entities.

Second, he didn't say the Taliban were wiped off the face of the earth. I wish they were. I wish "shock and awe" had worked, but it didn't.

Whirlaway · 10-10-2012, 08:18 AM

At 14:05 Laura Logan calls the administration's talking points on Afghanistan a "lie."

TheDaliLama · 10-10-2012, 08:22 AM

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I wish "shock and awe" had worked, but it didn't.

I'm just wondering what your little brain thinks "Shock and Awe" was supposed to accomplish?

Whirlaway · 10-10-2012, 08:23 AM

Shock and awe was the military plan for Iraq, not Afghanistan.

markroxny · 10-10-2012, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

Shock and awe was the military plan for Iraq, not Afghanistan.

EXACTLY! We never should have gone into Iraq and wasted our time and money...we should have stayed focused on Bin Laden and the Taliban!!!!

Whirlaway · 10-10-2012, 08:26 AM

So why is Obama selling us a lie about Afghanistan ?

markroxny · 10-10-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

So why is Obama selling us a lie about Afghanistan ?

What "lie" exactly?

wellendowed1911 · 10-10-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Whirlaway

So why is Obama selling us a lie about Afghanistan ?

WW- what part of Afghanistan does the Taliban control? When the Taliban were in power there were zero girls going to school- women could not leave their homes without the escort of a man- the Burqua was mandatory. There are well over 5000 taliban in prison and countless others who have been killed.
Of course the Taliban still have isolated attacks here and there- they even have them in remote regions of Pakistan.
Obama would be lying if the Taliban were controlling major cities- the Taliban only control remote areas that are tribal and never had any law structure. So Obama was not being mislead- there are some 300,000 trained Afghan troops- it's estimate the taliban has about 10,000 followers and they are armed with K-47's and RPG's and IED's- even when NATO nd U.S start to exit- it would be a very tough job for the Taliban to defeat an army of 300,000 who are equipped with tanks, helicopters and soon to be air force.
When the Taliban plants IED's or randomly execute people how can you assume they re emerging?
Post a link where the Taliban overpowers the afghan military or takes over a major city.

Whirlaway · 10-10-2012, 12:01 PM

Do you believe Obama's statement: "The goal that I set — to defeat al-Qaeda, and deny it a chance to rebuild — is within reach."

I tend to believe Lara Logan's assessments....but then I didn't drink the Obama kool aid.

Yssup Rider · 10-10-2012, 01:46 PM

Let's see. The "truth" is from an extreme right wing blog.

The additional evidence is an NYT story about the 2009 Taliban brutality in Pakistan against a young girl.

This proves that Obama is lying about something?

Back in the days of credibility and honor, the last word used in debunking an opponent's position was "lie." You boys (and girls) have watered it down so much that it carries no weight at all.

And that's NO LIE!

What have you been smoking, anyway?

Echoplex · 10-10-2012, 01:58 PM

I try to stay away from extreme right and extreme left websites. Both attack the other side and fail to the see the faults of their side. My question has always been - why are we the only 1st world, modernized country with only two parties to choose from? That being said, I don't think this country will progress until the extreme right and left come together.

Sorry, I got off topic of this thread.

CJ7 · 10-10-2012, 02:07 PM

Obie is pandering to the war hawks. PERIOD.

one day whirlie (et al) is all about stopping the taliban, the next day he bitches about Obie's GOAL to stop the taliban ..

waaaaaaay past time for our soldiers to drag bag and kiss american soil ...

CuteOldGuy · 10-10-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by U2Fan101

I try to stay away from extreme right and extreme left websites. Both attack the other side and fail to the see the faults of their side. My question has always been - why are we the only 1st world, modernized country with only two parties to choose from? That being said, I don't think this country will progress until the extreme right and left come together.

Sorry, I got off topic of this thread.

You're right. We have to break the Democrat/Republican monopoly. There is no other way out of our situation.

IIFFOFRDB · 10-10-2012, 03:14 PM

Ozombies watch the video...jeezus