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Old 09-28-2012, 10:28 PM   #1
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Default JAY-Z SUPPORTS BARACK OBAMA BUT THINKS “WE NEED LESS GOVERNMENT”

Let's see, what do we call someone who supports a candidate solely because of their race? Like, if a person is actually conservative, but supports a liberal candidate because of the candidate's skin color. What do we call that?

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“I support Barack because I gotta respect that sort of vision. I gotta respect a man who is the first black President ever,” he said. “To have that sort of vision and dream, I have to support that.”

http://v103.cbslocal.com/2012/09/27/...ss-government/
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:39 PM   #2
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Rap sucks...
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Old 09-28-2012, 10:39 PM   #3
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Thanks COG. You got balls.

How can a guy support Oplonker and be against big goverment.

I need to think about this for a minute. OK this is what should happen.

Jay-z needs to sit down with the gurlz on the view and they will get his headz rite....fucker
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Old 09-29-2012, 05:39 AM   #4
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He is just another idiot.
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Old 09-29-2012, 07:14 AM   #5
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Let's see, what do we call someone who supports a candidate solely because of their race? What does that have to do with this? Jay-Z agrees with one thing mentioned in the article that conservatives do. That hardly makes him a conservative. See below for more reasons why your take on this is wrong. Like, if a person is actually conservative, but supports a liberal candidate because of the candidate's skin color. What do we call that?

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“I support Barack because I gotta respect that sort of vision. I gotta respect a man who is the first black President ever,” he said. “To have that sort of vision and dream, I have to support that.”

http://v103.cbslocal.com/2012/09/27/...ss-government/
Did you not read the quote you posted? He states he supports Obama for his vision and dream. No point in trying to explain about respecting the first black President when all you see is the word "black". Just like the first woman President will deserve respect for more than being a woman. Maybe because what they have done as a person? Oh, that's right. You have no respect for him.
You also assume he is a conservative based his dislike for large government. Where do you think he stands on social issues? With Mitt? Probably not.


Just curious. How many people do you think will vote for Romney solely because he is white?
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:16 PM   #6
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Just curious. How many people do you think will vote for Romney solely because he is white?
Those people certainly exist. How many of them will you defend as justifiied because blacks are doing it for Obama? Something about two wrongs not making a right comes to mind.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:21 PM   #7
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Dumbest conversation ever.
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Old 09-29-2012, 04:29 PM   #8
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There were a lot of voters who voted for Obama in 2008 because he was black. Not just black voters but white voters too. They wanted to prove they were not a racist by voting for a black man for President. And a lot of them have buyer's remorse now. If they are smart this time, they will vote for anyone else but Obama in 2012, just to prove they are not stupid.
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Old 09-29-2012, 06:31 PM   #9
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Most voted for him because they were tired of eight years of republicans...
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And they'll keep voting Democratic for the next 20 years.
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And they'll keep voting Democratic for the next 20 years.
Face Down Ass Up Rider....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLs3KXiknBw
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Old 09-30-2012, 10:19 AM   #12
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Those people certainly exist. How many of them will you defend as justifiied because blacks are doing it for Obama? Something about two wrongs not making a right comes to mind.
I think it came to your mind first. That would explain why you added me defending and justifing something I expressed curiosity in.
Plus I'm not real big on nuances, beating around the bushes, or intelectual douche-speak. I say what I mean.
So when I say curious, I mean curious.
When I say fuck off, guess what I mean (it's OK for you-be-an-asshole to help this person. Dazzle them with douche-speak.)?
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You cant have Crap without RAP.
I call him a racist.
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Old 10-01-2012, 08:25 AM   #14
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I think it came to your mind first. That would explain why you added me defending and justifing something I expressed curiosity in.
Plus I'm not real big on nuances, beating around the bushes, or intelectual douche-speak. I say what I mean.
So when I say curious, I mean curious.
When I say fuck off, guess what I mean (it's OK for you-be-an-asshole to help this person. Dazzle them with douche-speak.)?
Lol...angry much?

In addition to the other things you claim to not be "real big on", you should add reading comprehension. I didn't add you to defending or justifying anything. I expressed curiosity as to whether you would. You seem to have one mode only and that is to attack, namecall and just generally be angry. My point was simply that it is wrong from both sides. It wasn't an attack on you.

What you call "douche-speak",I call a conversation. It used to be possible for people of different points of view to have a conversation. That would require that you read other people's comments and weigh its value and merit and then respond. People like you are incapable of that. You read other people's comments solely to find the nugget you want to rant about; regardless of its context. You took one comment from me and decided to hate me regardless of knowing anything about me other than what my comment revealed. Which, for the record, is that I don't like racism or hypocrisy from either side.

Have a great day sunshine.
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Old 10-01-2012, 11:53 AM   #15
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Well according to some members on this board, if you are really rich it's because you are really smart.

So if that logic is true than Jay-Z is smarter than anyone on this board. LOL

Oh, before you go down the "Jay-Z" is a conservative track......you do know he supports gay marriage right?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1516614.html

And he recently held a fundraiser for Obama.

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