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Old 11-09-2012, 09:11 AM   #1
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Default HOW DOES GOVERNMENT CREATE JOBS?

This thread, like all others I post, is intended to allow liberals to embarrass themselves. Liberals can embarrass themselves in 2 ways. First, by telling all of us what they believe in regard to how government creates. Secondly, by not posting in this thread because they don't know how government can create jobs......

Mitt Romney spend the past 6 months saying he can create jobs, and Odumbo spent the last 6 months saying it was Bush's fault, R's wanna take away your birth control and float your sick grandma out on an icekeg.....

America put their faith in Odumbo to bring the jobs back, so how does he do it? [assuming he actually wants to do it and not grow the dependent class]......
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:13 AM   #2
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During the 2010 mid-terms the GOP campaigned fiercely on the platform of job creation and, as a result of such promises, the GOP gained the majority in the House of Representatives. As new Speaker of the House, John Boehner made the welcome claim that the primary goal of the Republican Party was to increase employment in the U.S.

His exact words were: "We're going to have a relentless focus on creating jobs."


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Old 11-09-2012, 09:15 AM   #3
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Ask Mitt, he was going to create 12 million. I guess both sides of the aisle don't understand how jobs are created.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:19 AM   #4
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I want the old Marshall back, he was far more creative.

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The government does create jobs

Mark Bird, Las Vegas
Sunday, July 22, 2012 | 2:01 a.m.
Everyone has heard the statement, “Government does not create jobs.” This phrase is patently false. Instead, government has directly or indirectly created more than 90 percent of all jobs in Las Vegas.
Government created Hoover Dam, Interstate 15 and McCarran International Airport. Does any rational person really believe the MGM, Mirage or Venetian hotels are responsible for more jobs than these three government projects? Lake Mead supplies 90 percent of the water used in Las Vegas. Would these hotels have been built without the water source?
Furthermore, government creates more than 80 percent of all professional jobs via public institutions like the College of Southern Nevada and UNLV. The private sector seldom creates engineers, nurses, historians and dozens of other professionals.
The extreme antigovernment statement even has a false premise. It is like saying Venus, air and dirt do not create jobs. It is not the function of street cleaners, postal workers, librarians and dozens of other professions to create jobs. It is more accurate to say the function of government is to create needed public services.
Government similarly creates such employment in all 50 states. It is impossible to have a modern nation without a wide array of government jobs. Places without a multitude of government jobs have names like Ethiopia and the Amazon jungle.
Statements like, “Government does not create jobs,” should be subject to elementary scrutiny.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...s-create-jobs/
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:22 AM   #5
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It's a lot better for the private sector to create jobs because those jobs are paid for without government taxation or debt, the former being a form of compulsory purchase and the latter being unsustainable.

But when the private sector is in shambles because no one has enough money to buy anything government has to step in.

In Germany under the Nazis in 1933-34 unemployment was eliminated completely by giving everyone a temporary government job.

After 1934 in Germany their economic depression was over while the rest of the capitalist world mired in poverty and misery with no end in sight.

In the US during World War II unemployment was finally eliminated by also giving everyone a temporary government job.

Government spending is highly stimulative of the economy because all the money government spends goes into jobs for ordinary people and they spend all that money right away instead of saving it, investing it, etc.

All the money government spends increases aggregate demand on a dollar for dollar basis, and no other form of activity does that except for government spending.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:23 AM   #6
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obama's mission is not to create jobs per se, thats merely a sideline thing. oh yes he wants to support unions and government jobs and even private sector jobs...but his mission is to level out the wealth of the nation...

and in so doing, if a few jobs along the way are lost , well he will provide..aid and food stamps and unemployment compensation and healthcare..so all will really be ok.

if a few eggs have to be broken to make his omelet, thats the price


his stealth way to level out the wealth is to have an ever increasing deficit, its tantamount to taxation even if he cant get a tax raise passed..its a silent tax....government deficit spending accomplishes the same thing and also just keeps an ever increasing pressure and "worth" to the phrase "the wealthy needs to do their share"

have you ever heard obama ever be concerned about the deficit? no calling george bush unpatriotic for a deficit when he was running for president doesnt count..that was just a suberfuge and lie to get elected....

obama's first acts were the "stimulus" and raising the budget 20% across the board..that was the mission of his first 100 days and it is still his mission
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:28 AM   #7
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obama's mission is not to create jobs per se, thats merely a sideline thing. oh yes he wants to support unions and government jobs and even private sector jobs...but his mission is to level out the wealth of the nation...

and in so doing, if a few jobs along the way are lost , well he will provide..aid and food stamps and unemployment compensation and healthcare..so all well really be ok.

if a few eggs have to be broken to make his omelet, thats the price


his stealth way to level out the wealth is to have an ever increasing deficit, its tantamount to taxation even if he cant get a tax raise passed..its a silent tax....government deficit spending accomplishes the same thing and also just keeps an ever increasing pressure and "worth" to the phrase "the wealthy needs to do their share"
I don't think Obama is that purposeful LOL...

Anyone who knows Obama will tell you he has no ideology, strategy, or grand design.

I wish he did however.

The middle class needs to be restored in this country, and that means returning marginal Federal tax rates back to where they were under Reagan.

We need income distribution and taxes back to where they were under Reagan.

What's happend since has made the upper two or three percent soak up all the gains the middle class used to enjoy, and that's at the heart of the sluggish demand which is drowning the economy.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:33 AM   #8
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I don't think Obama is that purposeful LOL...

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i do, it was his first "100 days" strategy and it remains his strategy
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:34 AM   #9
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The middle class needs to be restored in this country, and that means returning marginal Federal tax rates back to where they were under Reagan.

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the maximum tax rate under reagan was 35 percent, same as it is this year

opps no it was 28%
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:42 AM   #10
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obama's mission is not to create jobs per se, thats merely a sideline thing. oh yes he wants to support unions and government jobs and even private sector jobs...but his mission is to level out the wealth of the nation...

and in so doing, if a few jobs along the way are lost , well he will provide..aid and food stamps and unemployment compensation and healthcare..so all well really be ok.

if a few eggs have to be broken to make his omelet, thats the price


his stealth way to level out the wealth is to have an ever increasing deficit, its tantamount to taxation even if he cant get a tax raise passed..its a silent tax....government deficit spending accomplishes the same thing and also just keeps an ever increasing pressure and "worth" to the phrase "the wealthy needs to do their share"

have you ever heard obama ever be concerned about the deficit? no calling george bush unpatriotic for a deficit when he was running for president doesnt count..that was just a suberfuge and lie to get elected....

obama's first acts were the "stimulus" and raising the budget 20% across the board..that was the mission of his first 100 days and it is still his mission

Romney chirped "Obama doubled the deficit" and the simpletons fell to their knees and prayed before the world ended ..

but ..

The final Congressional Budget Office baseline deficit projection before Obama took office -- noted in table 5 in this January 2009 CBO report -- showed a fiscal year 2009 deficit of $1.19 trillion.

That figure doesn’t account for any of Obama’s own spending initiatives, such as the stimulus bill. But the deficit grew quickly under Obama: The fiscal 2009 deficit rose to $1.41 trillion and has remained above $1 trillion annually ever since.

But compared to what Obama inherited, the annual deficit has gone down slightly. CBO projects that for fiscal 2012, which has just ended, the fiscal 2012 deficit will be $1.09 trillion.


and thats why simpletons are simpletons and Romney is back to work creating jobs in china ..

he never gave it a thought either
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Capital gains?

Since when was the highest rate restored to 35%?

Marginal rates depend on income levels, and those have to be adjusted back to what obtained before the Bush cuts, which were supposed to be temporary.

As far as Obama is concerned, anyone who even listens to him speak can tell he isn't a thinker. With his spare time he watches sports, smokes cigarettes and drinks malt liquor. When he was younger he used to stay high all the time.

Has Obama even read a single book he didn't have to in order to pass a course?

No.

Obama isn't a reader, speaks no languages other than his urban-dialect brand of English, never travels outside the US if he doesn't have to...

He is....oh my God...another George W. Bush !!!!!!!!!!!!
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I want the old Marshall back, he was far more creative.
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:51 AM   #13
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Capital gains?

Since when was the highest rate restored to 35%?

As far as Obama is concerned, anyone who even listens to him speak can tell he isn't a thinker. With his spare time he watches sports, smokes cigarettes and drinks malt liquor. When he was younger he used to stay high all the time.

sorry under reagan he had it down to 28% and it is 35% now
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:58 AM   #14
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sorry under reagan he had it down to 28% and it is 35% now





In 2003, Congress and the president took two important steps to boost economic growth. First, they lowered the maximum rate on capital gains to 15 percent. Second, they tied capital gains and dividend income together, lowering the rate on dividends from the top income tax rate to 15 percent. These rates expire in 2013


and, if the rates expire, they go back to Clintons rate of 20% .... 8% lower than Reagan years

Imagine that.
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Old 11-09-2012, 10:00 AM   #15
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Romney chirped "Obama doubled the deficit" and the simpletons fell to their knees and prayed before the world ended ..

but ..

The final Congressional Budget Office baseline deficit projection before Obama took office -- noted in table 5 in this January 2009 CBO report -- showed a fiscal year 2009 deficit of $1.19 trillion.

That figure doesn’t account for any of Obama’s own spending initiatives, such as the stimulus bill. But the deficit grew quickly under Obama: The fiscal 2009 deficit rose to $1.41 trillion and has remained above $1 trillion annually ever since.

But compared to what Obama inherited, the annual deficit has gone down slightly. CBO projects that for fiscal 2012, which has just ended, the fiscal 2012 deficit will be $1.09 trillion.


and thats why simpletons are simpletons and Romney is back to work creating jobs in china ..
what point are you addressing? that obama doesnt want to spread the wealth? no i didnt think so

that he cares about the deficit? no i didnt think so

that he doesnt have deficits as far as the eye can see? no i didnt think so

that he isnt a liar? lol no i didnt think so

that jobs are his focus? no i didnt think so


that he doesnt want to raise taxes and isnt settling for deficit spending if he cant? no i didnt think so

but you did post he has deficits, so yeah i agree
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