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Old 01-27-2014, 09:29 AM   #1
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Default I must have missed it.

We had another shooting and I waited for the inevitable shout for gun control from the lefties here. It didn't happen. I wonder why. Gunman was a minority? Someone at the DNC was off for the weekend and did not send out the talking points? He didn't use an "assault" weapon? I think the liberal racists here didn't like the POV that a Hispanic (black or otherwise) killed two non-minority people. It does not compute with their view of the world where racist white people are slaughtering minorities (except in Chicago).

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Old 01-27-2014, 12:28 PM   #2
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Does it hurt to be that dumb?
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Old 01-27-2014, 03:46 PM   #3
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It does not compute with their view of the world where racist white people are slaughtering minorities (except in Chicago).


...where do you come up with all this crap?
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:26 PM   #4
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...where do you come up with all this crap?
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Old 01-27-2014, 04:39 PM   #5
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Another "gun free zone" attacked.....................
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He's right...
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JD is right. This shooting does not fit the political narrative.
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Old 01-27-2014, 08:30 PM   #8
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Next thing they will want jack booted police patrolling the malls with fully automatic weapons.
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Old 01-27-2014, 09:53 PM   #9
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Another "gun free zone" attacked.....................
And of the 10,000 or so murders by guns in the U.S. in a given year, how many do you think happen in "gun free zones"? Without looking it up, I would bet a handful of them.

What I find ironic is that when such shootings do occur, the gun advocates promoting change so that more guns can be carried in more places far outnumber those who propose stricter gun control laws. In all my years reading and discussing gun control topics on forums, I may have read one post from 1 person proposing banning all guns. On the other hand, I have read many posts from others proposing no limits on 2nd Amendment rights, or what they believe are 2nd Amendment rights. They want the freedom for anyone to carry any weapon at any time in any place.
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Jesus. No provocation. You assholes are defensive, aren't you?

What are your talking points? Guns don't kill people, only Negroes with guns do?

Move along, nothing to see here but a raving dipshit...
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:45 AM   #11
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And of the 10,000 or so murders by guns in the U.S. in a given year, how many do you think happen in "gun free zones"? Without looking it up, I would bet a handful of them.

What I find ironic is that when such shootings do occur, the gun advocates promoting change so that more guns can be carried in more places far outnumber those who propose stricter gun control laws. In all my years reading and discussing gun control topics on forums, I may have read one post from 1 person proposing banning all guns. On the other hand, I have read many posts from others proposing no limits on 2nd Amendment rights, or what they believe are 2nd Amendment rights. They want the freedom for anyone to carry any weapon at any time in any place.
You don't read enough then. Democrats are always shouting about banning this and that, assault weapons and high capacity magazines, WMDs and Vorpal blades. Senator Diane Feinstein wants to ban assault weapons....but she has also said she wants to ban pistols with high capacity magazines. What is the difference between a pistol (or rifle) that uses a high capacity magazine and one that doesn't. Joe Biden says use a double barrel shotgun until someone uses a shotgun to kill people and then they want to limit ammunition. In California this week Ruger and Smith & Wesson are pulling out their retail sales (economic gun control). Why? Because they will not comply with a unenforceable law (micro-printing). So because they will not comply their guns are now unsafe??? You mean the weapons that many of the law enforcement personnel are carrying are unsafe because of a law? Singlely, not many are calling for an outright ban but collectively (socialists love collectives) they are promoting nothing less than a ban.

http://www.minnpost.com/community-vo...cond-amendment
http://americamagazine.org/issue/rep...cond-amendment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/norm-s...b_2319249.html
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/16/ca...ond-amendment/#!
http://americablog.com/2012/12/its-t...ompletely.html
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/ex-nyc-mayor-ban-all-guns/

Just a sampling.


You know if only life is saved by defensive use...it's worth it. Right?
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Another "gun free zone" attacked.....................
so the victims were at fault for working in a "gun free zone" ...is that what it's reduced to?

do you think that an armed mall cop would have prevented those two deaths? ...sure the armed mall cop could've saved the gunman the trouble of killing himself, but probably wouldn't have been able to save those two employees from being shot to death.
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Does it hurt to be that dumb?
The shooter is dead. He doesn't "hurt" any more. Thank God!
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You don't read enough then. Democrats are always shouting about banning this and that, assault weapons and high capacity magazines, WMDs and Vorpal blades. Senator Diane Feinstein wants to ban assault weapons....but she has also said she wants to ban pistols with high capacity magazines. What is the difference between a pistol (or rifle) that uses a high capacity magazine and one that doesn't. Joe Biden says use a double barrel shotgun until someone uses a shotgun to kill people and then they want to limit ammunition. In California this week Ruger and Smith & Wesson are pulling out their retail sales (economic gun control). Why? Because they will not comply with a unenforceable law (micro-printing). So because they will not comply their guns are now unsafe??? You mean the weapons that many of the law enforcement personnel are carrying are unsafe because of a law? Singlely, not many are calling for an outright ban but collectively (socialists love collectives) they are promoting nothing less than a ban.

http://www.minnpost.com/community-vo...cond-amendment
http://americamagazine.org/issue/rep...cond-amendment
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/norm-s...b_2319249.html
http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/16/ca...ond-amendment/#!
http://americablog.com/2012/12/its-t...ompletely.html
http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/ex-nyc-mayor-ban-all-guns/

Just a sampling.


You know if only life is saved by defensive use...it's worth it. Right?
I never said that there are not people out there who want all guns banned. There are a handful of them, just as there are a handful of people who want no gun control at all.

I happen to agree, somewhat, with those articles asking for repeal of the 2nd Amendment. Why? As written, the interpretation of it is so open to controversy that we have seen countless lawsuits brought through the court system asking for the various state and federal court's interpretation of the amendment. But to make it clear, I am not at all promoting the banning of handguns.

In Texas, I'd like to give you specific examples of what I believe are over-zealous politicians pushing guns on the majority of the population with absolutely no concern for the majority.

Every 2 years the state legislature meets to enact new laws. And every 2 years someone in the legislature brings up a law for passage that would allow students over 21 the right to carry concealed handguns in college dormitories and classrooms.The president of the University of Texas system does not want it. The president of UT-Austin does not want it. The overwhelming majority of faculty and students at UT-Austin do not want it. The campus police do not want it. The city of Austin police do not want it. In spite of all this opposition against such a bill by those who would be most affected by the law, my bet is that eventually such a bill will be passed. Why not simply let each college decide for themselves whether or not to allow concealed handguns in dorms and classrooms?

Second example -- elections in Texas for Governor and Lt. Governor are in the near future. I'm reading that several candidates from guess which party, are proposing open carry of handguns. Give me a break! I'd be willing to bet that if the voting population is asked, less than a handful would support such a law. I have no problem with concealed handguns by those with a CHL, but open carry I am totally against.

Your last statement, "You know if only life is saved by defensive use...it's worth it. Right?" is as ridiculous as my stating "You know if only one life is lost to someone who kills using a handgun, it's worth it to ban all handguns."
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The shooter is dead. He doesn't "hurt" any more. Thank God!
WOW dumb +2 LL & JD
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