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Join Date: Jan 18, 2010
Location: texas (close enough for now)
Posts: 9,249
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where do you come down?
Regardless of what one believes, the Bible says that God placed an angel to keep man from returning to the Garden of Eden....
why? because man was not perfect...
The founding fathers had that view of man...our imperfection. They established a constitution and a government, a republican form (not a democracy), with a system of checks and balances and of course the electoral college, to allow individual states to continue to have a voice, to protect the weak from the strong, to protect the individual from the
state, to protect liberty from the tyranny of the majority. the
one overriding, pervasive theme?....the protection of liberty.
opposed to this view, this foundational aspect of america, sits the liberal, the left, the communist, the progressive. the french revolution is one example but even better ...the old soviet union had at its core, the attempt at creating the perfect man, the soviet man, its society to cuminate in the perfection of man. in their quest for perfect men, they had no qualms about theft or murder or any act deemed necessary. their mantra was theft; stealing from capitalists was their duty. of course it imploded, for man was imperfect and their rulers were mere men, murderous, greedy and vain.
the city of san francisco, sits on the edge of America, like a virus sits in one's computer, ready, working, steathily, ever moving to thwart and change America into its idea of perfection. they think they can develop a Teilhardian unity of man. all it takes is your destruction and their control. it is their religion and they are zealous.
the ows is just one instrument in this movement. we shall perfect man, by removing the imperfect men, by leveling everything. some simpletons just want their years of sloth and debt acquistion taken from them, debt, by the way, imposed on them by their own pedagogues. their instructors in vain idealism, who nevertheless aren't overly idealistic enough to not make sure they are well salaried and pensioned. Some, however, wish to control , for they know better, or they just want to rule or any other human reason but it all ends in diminished liberty.
they think that poverty and disease and strife can be cured by their control, for they are smart and caring, and, by the elimination of freedom and liberty, or if you resist, the elimination of you, all will be well.
while actually, the whole progress of man has come from liberty and freedom.
what is a greater societal value? freedom and liberty or equality of outcome?
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