Consensus on what GFE and PSE is. Has GFE changed?

[gimme_that]

I feel as if over the last few years GFE (girlfriend experience) has become highly subjective when in my time first starting it never was. You sorta knew what to expect at minimum if a lady was GFE. There’s no such thing as light gfe.

Gfe to me is similar to an experience with a real life responsible girlfriend. I feel at minimum she needs to provide these things below.

At minimum.

The gfe I'm seeking which was the proper definition is.....

GFE
"Girl friend experience"

"(1)Deep French kissing, (2) intimate touch (digits), (3)body rub body glide or massage, (4) reverse massage, (5) naked cuddling, (6) uncovered oral giving and receiving, (7) "msog" (orgasms) = "multiple shots on goal" during booked time frame, (8) and covered full service intercourse in multiple positions without limitations."

That's my bare minimum for basic gfe above. It’s been highly subjective for a few the last few years. Especially by non professionals.


Pse I feel is more attitude based. But even then I enjoy a girlfriend who fuqs me like a porn star. I do feel like if you advertise pse there are certain things you need to offer or provide.

PSE
Porn star experience (possible expectations)

(A) Does she allow cum on hands, body, face, or neither?

(B) does she allow cell phone pictures and cell phone video for my eyes only.

(C) During BBBJ does she swallow, spit, or neither. Does msog occur here as well.

(D) does she have the stamina to accommodate for a more spirited session for multihours.

(E). Does she allow Greek.


So what do you guys and girls feel is basic gfe?

What do you guys and gals consider PSE to be?

What should we expect at minimum if a lady advertises as GFE and/or PSE. What’s the consensus. Are the specifics even important to anyone anymore?

Seems so few offer it in certain areas……..

Especially PSE.

[Cougarlicious]

PSE I provide Filming, multiples, tantric massage, costume role play, COB, Sitting, lapdancing , BBBJ or worship yours and many multiple positions to last up to 1 hour of fun
YMMV on Geek, no larger than 5 inches.

No passionate lovemaking, save that for your GFE provider.

[Fizley]

Good luck in defining GFE and PSE.

One GFE and PSE will very from the next. There is also an economic variable. If the cell phone does not ring, your a regular, your more likely to get additional services than the random new dude

[ICU 812]

The sp-called "GFE" is, for me, less about a list of make-pr-break acts. It is more about how we interact as Provider and Hobbyist.

I do fully understand the nature of the Hobby and the differences between Real World life and Hobby World life. However: The best GFE sessions I have had were with providers who made me feel that, for our time together, I was the only person in her life, and nothing else impinged on that.

A part of that is the illusion, however fleeting, that we are lovers. The "illusion of passion" (IOP) that is sometimes briefly referred to in reviews is an important part of the GFE. Even if a bit transparently bogus, I appreciate the effort.

yeah, I do like the open menu, near PSE, full-service action, but again, its not a list of things to be checked off for me. The "E" in GFE is the most important part.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by Cougarlicious

PSE I provide Filming, multiples, tantric massage, costume role play, COB, Sitting, lapdancing , BBBJ or worship yours and many multiple positions to last up to 1 hour of fun
YMMV on Geek, no larger than 5 inches.

No passionate lovemaking, save that for your GFE provider.

cip me but no kissing ????

[Cougarlicious]

CFS Yes with Multiple rounds,No CIP, No DFK Intimacy, save that for GFE provider.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by Fizley

Good luck in defining GFE and PSE.

yup

[BLM69]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

cip me but no kissing ????

As long as my cock is kissed and sucked good, I don't need her tongue in my mouth, CIP is very popular around these area's

[gimme_that]

I had a few ladies actually tell me cumming in their mouth or swallowing was ok. But kissing they thought as too intimate and personal. Never quite understood it but I let her do her thing.

[SomeRandomGuy88]

I’m only interested in a True GFE or PSE. A TGFE must require DFK, BBFS and CIP. A TPSE is BBFS but you can unload on her tits, face, etc. what the fuck kind of porno has a guy wearing a condom? A lame one. If she wants you to wear a rubber, that’s neither GFE or PSE but just some lame facsimile of one. That’s okay as most providers offer a true GFE or PSE in the first session if you play your cards right.

[Fizley]

[QUOTE=SomeRandomGuy88;10628091 26]I’m only interested in a True GFE or PSE. A TGFE must require DFK, BBFS and CIP. A TPSE is BBFS but you can unload on her tits, face, etc. what the fuck kind of porno has a guy wearing a condom) QUOTE]

TPSE or TGFE?

What does the "T" stand for?

[Lovelyxxxo]

While I'm a true gfe since the beginning.. I don't offer CIP ( MAYBE IM READING IT WRONG BUT IF SHE ALLOWING YOUR CUM IN HER VAGINAL CAVITY WHATS THE POINT OF COVERING UP PERIOD THAT DOESNT MAKE SENSE)

I Have always offered msog,cim ( depending on your diet determines IF I can swallow it or not .. I hate salt so if you've got high salt intake I'm gonna NQBS it sorry) DFK AND IOP HAS ALWAYS been a must in my book.. and while I'm not an over the top " oh yes omg " type talker . My moans are genuine and if you can get me to giggle ( it's how I orgasm idk y) you've made my atf list.. while I'm not gonna fake it till I make it ( sorry) I truly enjoy the tryst I have and give it my all as if I was trying " impress the new s.o" ( that'd be you at least for the moment. )

But every girl has her goals and skillset.. and one cannot force one to do what the other does.. nor should you expect anything . ( DO OUR RESEARCH but know everyone's chemistry is different and ymmv)

I can't say anything about pse.. I cant perform it I have no thoughts or interest to indulge it.. dirty talk is IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME ( I'll laugh and ruin the whole mood everytime) also I don't feel comfortable in the desired clothing..

[Mplay]

I think it’s nonsense . If she’s good she knows what a man and another woman wants. It’s a pricing strategy that is shit.

[Pangolier]

Keep in mine one of the reasons acronyms were developed was to avoid trouble with law enforcement. Not the sole reason, but one of the reasons. Why do you think drug dealers talk in code? You never see one telling another drug dealer "I want to buy 2 pounds of cocaine!" He'll say something like "3 keys of powder" Of course I doubt this method is a reliable way to avoid prosecution. Back when I saw Vanessa Love in Australia (check my reviews this was well over a year ago) everyone on Scarlet Blue was brash with their explicit terms like "natural blow job" instead of saying BBBJ because prostitution was legal in Sydney at the time; perhaps it still is.



There was never a formal definition of either term in the Websters Dictionary. The only thing you can say definitively is what the abbreviations stand for. I would think most intelligent girls would not risk engaging in explicit talk, so you probably don't know for sure what you are getting unless you check with a reliable source.

[Fizley]

^^^^

Maybe 20 years ago acronyms were developed, but word spread quickly, just like in the drug culture. (8 Ball, speed, dope, ect.)

Back when I started in the Hobby myRedbook used to have the acronyms posted on their web page.

MyRedbook acronyms is a perfect trail for aprosecutor to use against you when seeking charges. You would have to go on the stand, explain what your definition of GFE is, your history of reviews would be put on display in the court tv, and any other posts.

Acronyms today are just as incriminating today as offering $100 for sex.