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Old 08-19-2011, 09:25 AM   #1
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I have had many tell me when they see "See ROS" in a review it's hard to tell what activities took place. The are members just non-posters. The really don't care about the "rest of the story" they just want to know what activities might be available.

Since I am not a man, I do not know if all reviews if seemed creditable enough get credit or not. I really don't know this process at all.

I just know many frustrated men out there reading, and when a review states "See ROS" that really isn't helpful.

SOOOOOO my suggestion is: No premium credit for "See ROS" or other reviews not done in the proper protocol.

Credit if reviews are done correctly and followed the suggested ways listed.

Will make a poll to let others vote for the owners and staff can see what the members of the board think.
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:36 AM   #2
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This one comes up from time to time. "See ROS" is unacceptable for the writer to receive PA credit and access that is and has been in place for quite some time, I reject them regularly for that. http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=69938 and http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=5028

That is important to some gentlemen but not to others. There's a fine line between too much info and not enough info in a review. There has to be some incentive for a guy to want to upgrade to see the ROS info. (it is free after all, if you write accepted reviews)

On the other hand, what I usually see is ladies wanting LESS info in reviews. There are countless comments to that effect across many forums here. From less info to no reviews at all, to limiting comments on those reviews. We will never be able to make everyone happy with regard to reviews!
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Old 08-19-2011, 10:45 AM   #3
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I have had many tell me when they see "See ROS" in a review it's hard to tell what activities took place. The are members just non-posters. The really don't care about the "rest of the story" they just want to know what activities might be available.

Since I am not a man, I do not know if all reviews if seemed creditable enough get credit or not. I really don't know this process at all.

I just know many frustrated men out there reading, and when a review states "See ROS" that really isn't helpful.

SOOOOOO my suggestion is: No premium credit for "See ROS" or other reviews not done in the proper protocol.

Credit if reviews are done correctly and followed the suggested ways listed.

Will make a poll to let others vote for the owners and staff can see what the members of the board think.
I'll see you that (with which I'm in total agreement) and raise you one: no PA credit for "See website" in the "Fee" section.

One of my pet peeves ("I don't have pet peeves; I have major psychotic fucking hatreds" --George Carlin) is guys who are too damn lazy to put the fee paid (or the lady's customary fee if there's reason not to disclose the actual fee paid--say, a special that the lady is giving that one hobbyist that she doesn't want everyone "expecting).

My "favorite" was the guy who put "see website" under "Fee" without providing a link to the website...

PA should only be given for reviews that have all the basic information upfront, and don't require either PA or a visit to another website to find it out. So at bare minimum, provide one form of contact (email, phone, or website if the lady has a reservation form she insists must be used), a stated fee in actual numbers (or "$" code), and a listing of activities, or no PA credit.

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Old 08-19-2011, 11:12 AM   #4
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I'll see you that (with which I'm in total agreement) and raise you one: no PA credit for "See website" in the "Fee" section.
My "favorite" was the guy who put "see website" under "Fee" without providing a link to the website...
PA should only be given for reviews that have all the basic information upfront, and don't require either PA or a visit to another website to find it out. So at bare minimum, provide one form of contact (email, phone, or website if the lady has a reservation form she insists must be used), a stated fee in actual numbers (or "$" code), and a listing of activities, or no PA credit.
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All of those are already covered in the links above. Enforcement of them is the real issue.
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:04 PM   #5
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All of those are already covered in the links above. Enforcement of them is the real issue.

Sounds like they need a better set of mods (I know some of ya guys and gals are GREAT) to make sure the enforcement is taking place. meaning in area's where its not being enforced changing of the guards so to speak.

Maybe ONE mod (depending on area of course) be assigned only review duty?

I must say as a provider the best reviews are the ones that are actually done as the guidelines suggest. Name, website, fee, activities ..

I will tell my guys if they have a special friend rate that what to post, meaning they are a repeat client. BUT if I'm advertising a special I'd like to see that posted like "Cum to me special $$25 - hr" .. working links are VERY important.

The reason for reviews is not to pound your chest and talk about your conquest but RATHER promote a good time, let others know if it was so so, things to watch out for, or to report bad times. EVERY session is YMMV unless she is mechanical. No man is going to get the exact same experience, but can have a similar one.

I think its much more helpful to other guys if they are all filled out correctly. White Knights jumping in and giving a guy a bad time for NOT having a good experience should be stopped IMHO. If a guy says something didn't work right and the lady didn't respond lack of luster bcd .. why jump his ass for his .02?

Sometimes ladies will watch the board, read posts, comments on reviews to see if she wants to risk a visit. I'm for one that if I see a bunch of white knight or favortism shown I'm probably going to pass on the visit. Just how I am ... I want wonderful visits with gentlemen whom will truly enjoy our time. Variety!!

I don't understand these guys whom comment on everything, and even put other gals down even if they have never seen them BCD ... guess its life !

"Not all money is good money" ....
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Old 08-19-2011, 01:47 PM   #6
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Sounds like they need a better set of mods (I know some of ya guys and gals are GREAT) to make sure the enforcement is taking place. meaning in area's where its not being enforced changing of the guards so to speak. ....
THT,

Just because a review is written, does not mean it is accepted and PA access is allowed. I have had a review not accepted (no BCD activities occurred, it was more for informational purposes since the lady's ad was quite a tease.)

It would be interesting to see a % of reviews that are rejected in each region, might be surprising.
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Old 08-19-2011, 03:11 PM   #7
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Just because a review is written, does not mean it is accepted and PA access is allowed. I have had a review not accepted (no BCD activities occurred, it was more for informational purposes since the lady's ad was quite a tease.)

It would be interesting to see a % of reviews that are rejected in each region, might be surprising.
Excellent point and I should have said that before. ALL reviews submitted do go up but not all are approved for PA credit for a variety of reasons. That info is not made public as it is a matter between the reviewer and staff only.
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Old 08-19-2011, 04:13 PM   #8
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The non-premium access people should have the bare minimum, which consists of contact information, rate paid, working links and a list of BCD activites with yes or no recommendation. ROS should be written accordingly for those who want, and are willing to pay for (either cash or by qualified reviews), more detailed information that might enhance other's hobby experience. The ROS should not be a chest pounding blow-by-blow of how good the hobbiest was.
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It never makes a difference to me one way or the other what they put. This whole thing is ymmv so when I want to know what the lady offers I check their site or p411.
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The non-premium access people should have the bare minimum, which consists of contact information, rate paid, working links and a list of BCD activites with yes or no recommendation. ROS should be written accordingly for those who want, and are willing to pay for (either cash or by qualified reviews), more detailed information that might enhance other's hobby experience. The ROS should not be a chest pounding blow-by-blow of how good the hobbiest was.

I totally agree with you. It DOES NOT help a lady when in activities it says "See ROS".

and Chica ...

In some ways if a review isn't worth "credit" then I think it shouldn't be left in public, but maybe brought to a staging lot, a ML or some place else.
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In some ways if a review isn't worth "credit" then I think it shouldn't be left in public, but maybe brought to a staging lot, a ML or some place else.
I tend to agree in one way but disagree in others.
However the board guidelines don't give us the option to not leave them in public view, unless they are proven flagrantly false or out of bounds in some way.

One thing you have to remember, reviews are written for the purpose of helping the hobbyist to find and decide if they want to see a particular lady. The secondary benefit of reviews is for the ladies for reputation, advertising and marketing purposes, of course.
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Sounds like they need a better set of mods (I know some of ya guys and gals are GREAT) to make sure the enforcement is taking place. meaning in area's where its not being enforced changing of the guards so to speak.
Maybe ONE mod (depending on area of course) be assigned only review duty?
Keep in mind THT the mods are not paid and they are doing there best. A little bit of a low blow. I am sure the mods get bombarded with tons of reviews and shifting thru what is legit and not is not easy. Some may slip thru the cracks and get credit but it is I am sure it is not rampant
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Old 08-20-2011, 09:42 AM   #13
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Thumbs up I love reading reviews that have some Validity to it.

NO PA credit should be given to reviews that are NOT completely filled out properly. It don't do the Provider or Hobbyist justice when it appears that the review was lacking info or perceived as the hobbyist is hiding the activities section from the provider, just so he can lie or boast a different view in ROS section (which is hiden from most... opps, i mean ALL providers view) but they can see the Activities section, and thats why some hobbyists put SEE ROS in activities section IMHO. I love reading reviews that have some Validity to it.

When i see (see Website) in rate section = lazy hobbyist or Special
when i see (see Ros) in activities section = his creditablity is in question, then i read the ROS and sure enough, he went to greece and came 15 times in 30-min.

I would rather read MORE about the provider than how he thinks he did.

So how do the MODS Enforce this?

NO PA CREDIT typed somewhere on the review would be great.

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NO PA credit should be given to reviews that are NOT completely filled out properly. It don't do the Provider or Hobbyist justice when it appears that the review was lacking info or perceived as the hobbyist is hiding the activities section from the provider, just so he can lie or boast a different view in ROS section (which is hiden from most... opps, i mean ALL providers view) but they can see the Activities section, and thats why some hobbyists put SEE ROS in activities section IMHO. I love reading reviews that have some Validity to it.
From my view as a lady and I suspect MANY men, are in total agreement with you.

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When i see (see Website) in rate section = lazy hobbyist or Special
when i see (see Ros) in activities section = his creditablity is in question, then i read the ROS and sure enough, he went to greece and came 15 times in 30-min.
Very good points, I never thought of it like that.

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So how do the MODS Enforce this?

NO PA CREDIT typed somewhere on the review would be great.

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I think it would be of a great help to the hobbyist to know that "NO PA CREDIT" was given. Also may aide in better reviews being written.
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Why does it matter if the hobbyists know whether or not credit was given? It doesn't matter if they give them credit or not. We them members decide if that review is cedible to us or not. We retain and use the info that is good and throw away the ones that aren't.
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