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02-18-2010, 09:51 PM
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I’m always asked by my clients about the differences we face in escorting as opposed to our Caucasian counterparts. Of course I tell them the general differences such as income/rates, advertising/marketing and location/demographics, but sometimes i’m still questioned further about my personal differences in the industry. I just wanted some positive (or negative) feedback as to…. why all the curiosity?
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02-18-2010, 10:22 PM
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Thank you for a very interesting post. I am new so don't have much to contribute yet but I look forward to reading the responses from other experienced girls. I am very curious about cities to tour that welcome ebony girls.
Kisses Claudia
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02-18-2010, 11:32 PM
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I don't know about all the curiosity, but my first ATF in this Hobby was half Vietnamese, half German and my present ATF is 100% latin. Both are classy, funny, intelligent, sexy, sensual and very beautiful ladies. Both have some of the best pair of legs I have ever seen or touched.(lol)
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02-19-2010, 06:54 AM
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For me, it is just the pure exotic nature of the whole thing.
First of all, I do have a desire to experience BCD time w/ AAs, Asians, mixed, Native Americans, etc. It is part desire to know what it is like and part "grass on the other side of the fence" syndrome. There also exists some urban legends, correct or not, about how passionate/sexual these ladies are BCD.
As yet, I have not been able to see any of these ladies BCD (not for the lack of trying). Anyone out there who want to get together, PM me.
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02-19-2010, 08:32 AM
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Like the Texas thread I think this is well intended. I hope that when someone goes out on a limb and makes a well intended comment that is divisive or not politically correct, this thread doesn't blow up
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Of course I tell them the general differences such as income/rates, advertising/marketing and location/demographics, but sometimes i’m still questioned further about my personal differences in the industry. ?
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Lily, I'm curious what these "general" differences are & your take on them
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For me, it is just the pure exotic nature of the whole thing.
First of all, I do have a desire to experience BCD time w/ AAs, Asians, mixed, Native Americans, etc. It is part desire to know what it is like and part "grass on the other side of the fence" syndrome. There also exists some urban legends, correct or not, about how passionate/sexual these ladies are BCD.
As yet, I have not been able to see any of these ladies BCD (not for the lack of trying). Anyone out there who want to get together, PM me.
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One of the things this p4p arena lends itself to in general is variety. A lot of guys believe variety, ethnicity/race being a component of that, is the spice of life. Why not sample sweets from around the world?
& Charles, if you want a AA/Ebony/Black gal come to Atlanta. You can get one on the cheap too.
Seriously, at the risk of suggesting NPO(B)A is worth....there is incredible downward pressure on pricing for dark skinned women & it works its way throughout the Adult Industry. Consider, at most "Black" (the term used to describe them) Clubs, private dances are half ($5) what they are at mainstream/mixed clubs. "Extras" are easier/more open/cheaper at "Black" Clubs. The well known hooker/SW strolls are predominately dark-skinned women. I'm sure you can appreciate the pressure that creates on pricing as ladies try to move up market....
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I am very curious about cities to tour that welcome ebony girls.
Kisses Claudia
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See above. Atlanta is "welcoming" -- but good luck getting more than say $200 - $250/hr -- particularly as an unknown ebony
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02-19-2010, 09:49 AM
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[QUOTE=atlcomedy;125248]Like the Texas thread I think this is well intended. I hope that when someone goes out on a limb and makes a well intended comment that is divisive or not politically correct, this thread doesn't blow up
Me too!
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02-19-2010, 11:37 AM
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This is an interesting thread.
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Seriously, at the risk of suggesting NPO(B)A is worth....there is incredible downward pressure on pricing for dark skinned women & it works its way throughout the Adult Industry. Consider, at most "Black" (the term used to describe them) Clubs, private dances are half ($5) what they are at mainstream/mixed clubs. "Extras" are easier/more open/cheaper at "Black" Clubs.
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I would have to agree with this. There also seems very little representation of women of colour within escort agency rosters as well.
I think that comes down to ones mental image of what is considered attractive and influences of television, film and print that portray beautiful women as being "Blonde Bombshell", "Exotic Brunette"..These faces shown throughout media have been primarily Caucasian.
I live in a very multicultural city (a good place to tour btw), however, the amount of Ebony SP's is relatively small and many agencies and massage parlours refrain from hiring them. Asian escorts are in abundance here but have a bad reputation for being B&S which also makes it difficult for quality Asian providers.
As for myself, I have never had a client ask me about this but from my own personal experience (and of course a lot of has to do with where I live) working independently but I notice when reading some of the review boards in my area a large majority of the the "Craigs List Section" are of Ebony/Asian/Indian girls with much lower rates while the reviews in the "Reviews" section are primarily of Caucasian girls. To my knowledge - at least online, there are only a few of Ebony/Asian providers with rates similar to mine.
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I suppose the curiosity comes from wondering what it is like to be on 'the other side of the coin'.
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02-19-2010, 12:22 PM
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I have to be careful here because my thoughts are not bad (at least I don’t think them so), but my diplomacy is sometimes lacking…lol.
First, I would think the biggest problem for most of us would be “blending in”. It is hard enough to walk around with a really hot gal, with most of us guys being a lot more regular looking, and not draw attention to ourselves. Walk around with a really hot gal, where you are a salt and pepper couple, and your “blend in” factor was diminished. Maybe folks are “looking on” with prejudicial judgment. Maybe folks are “looking on” with envy. But it is my opinion, they are “looking on” more than with a non salt and pepper couple. And drawing attention to ourselves is not something a lot of us are comfortable with.
Much like I understand EL to be someone who likes to snow ski. Well, in most snow skiing venues a woman of color tends to get noticed more than a woman who is not. I think this is mostly because it is fairly rare on the slopes. Not bad…not good…just something one would notice more.
Second, there are a lot of really hot white gals. Likewise there are a lot of really hot gals of other ethnicities. But when they are really hot of another ethnicity…they somehow also are more likely to become exotic too. I think it is harder for a white gal to be exotic. So now the guy is going to have to walk around with a really hot gal who is exotic too. Now EVERYBODY is gonna be looking…lol.
I don’t think all the SW comparisons have much of anything to do with the gals in here. There are books written about the economic differences between the ethnicities…and opinions are as varied as there are books. A woman of class is still a woman of class…no matter what her ethnicity. I would think there are many other variables (other than some prejudice) that pose some difficulties. The above are just a couple.
None of that is a solution to anything. But it might explain at least part of the difficulties the ethnic gals have to deal with.
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02-19-2010, 12:33 PM
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Its rare i ever peek on this side of the board.
*Sighing*
I do just fine as a ebony (black) provider, its rare i have problems getting my full donation, which is 200 an hour. And its many more ebony beauties that charge alot more than me and they do wonderful. Occasionally i will get a caller, always white, who say i should charge less.....and the only reason is because im black. Guess what, i still slept great that night.
I often think why do white men wander in my door, to be honest they are my favorites, they tend to be more open-minded, often could care less about my skin color. We talk on a variety of subjects, and we get along great. Some walk in my door, thinking im ghetto and a slang talker and very relieved to find that i am nowhere near that way. I am just like anyone other provider.
Ebony providers are welcome everywhere, its something for everybody, there are so many people who could less what skin color you are, just as long you treat them with respect and they have a great time. Some ebony providers may do better in some areas, i would not know, i don't tour. But im sure if i went to Atlanta i would make a bit more than i do here, but the competition would be unbelievable. I am very happy where i am.
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02-19-2010, 12:36 PM
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Interesting question
Double post- sorry
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02-19-2010, 12:59 PM
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I often think why do white men wander in my door, to be honest they are my favorites, they tend to be more open-minded, often could care less about my skin color.
This is an ironic statement. A black provider asking about differences and not being treated fairly due to color. Then you have a black provider comment she prefers white clients. Unbelievable.
Call it what it is. Providers have a No Blacks Allowed clause. And clients have a No Blacks Allowed preference. It is what it is.
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02-19-2010, 02:11 PM
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To be honest, I have never thought much about color or ethnicity. Perhaps this is because my limited experience in the hobby world has been very isolated so far.
I'm half-Korean and half-French, but was raised American as my father's family identifies as American (despite my paternal grandmother being born and raised in France). I really like having family from all over the world. . . it gave me quite a bit of opportunity growing up. I think I was exposed to the world more so than many of my peers and it affected me positively.
Anyways, enough of my family tree.
I've heard about the whole "exotic" thing too and have been told that I look exotic, but I'm not exactly sure what that means. I will admit that it turns me off when men fetishize me because I'm half Asian. It just makes me feel icky as if they don't even see me as a person.
I think there are beautiful women of all races and ethnicities. I've also seen mixed women that were simply drop dead gorgeous! Something about the mixing of genes produces jaw dropping results.
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02-19-2010, 02:39 PM
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Lily, I'm curious what these "general" differences are & your take on them
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My darling... now you know i'm much too private to mention anything specific on a public message board.
But I will say that since I have a passion for skiing as Rudyard K mentioned.... I do meet quite a few men on the skiing boards that indulge my passion for skiing. Now since bartering is my forte', these trips are usually all expense paid with a lot of BCD, never having to barter p4p adds a little spice to this industry.
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02-19-2010, 03:12 PM
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Okay
I am very aware of clients who don't see black providers, you are right, it is what it is, however to call or email a provider and proceed to tell her why she should charge less because she is black is inexcusable.
Nothing ironic about my thoughts, i see black men, i love variety, for me its seeing what else is out there, i cant stick to one thing, i can honestly say i have seen a good variety of race groups. I have worked civilian jobs with different group of races. Hey im curious to see whats on the other side of the fence.
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I often think why do white men wander in my door, to be honest they are my favorites, they tend to be more open-minded, often could care less about my skin color.
This is an ironic statement. A black provider asking about differences and not being treated fairly due to color. Then you have a black provider comment she prefers white clients. Unbelievable.
Call it what it is. Providers have a No Blacks Allowed clause. And clients have a No Blacks Allowed preference. It is what it is.
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02-19-2010, 04:07 PM
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I think that comes down to ones mental image of what is considered attractive and influences of television, film and print that portray beautiful women as being "Blonde Bombshell", "Exotic Brunette"..These faces shown throughout media have been primarily Caucasian.
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It doesn't work that way for men.
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