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Old 06-14-2021, 07:47 PM   #1
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Default South Dakota rocked again as a wind turbine plant shuts its doors

the Beavis Butt-Head Biden effect.

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South Dakota rocked again as a wind turbine plant shuts its doors

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-dak...043100112.html
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Sun, June 13, 2021, 11:31 PM






John F. Kerry, the special presidential envoy for climate, said only months ago that those losing fossil fuel jobs in coal and hydraulic fracturing will find they have a better choice in jobs in either the solar industry or as wind turbine technicians.


That was then. Now, a wind blade manufacturing plant located in Aberdeen, South Dakota has announced it is shutting its doors permanently in less than two months.


The disappearance of Molded Fiber Glass will displace over three hundred workers and their families. It marks another major loss of energy jobs in the state following President Joe Biden's halting of the Keystone Pipeline on the first day of his administration.


MFG said in a news release that the closure will happen because of changing market conditions, foreign competition, and proposed revisions to tax policies affecting the wind energy industry in the United States.


Since 2007, the Aberdeen plant has been producing wind turbine blades. The plant will remain in operation for the next two months until it has have fulfilled existing orders.


A family member of one of the workers said they were informed of the closure last Monday. Employees was completely taken off guard by the announcement. She was also perplexed by it. “They should be swimming in orders right now," she said.


In 2017 MFG threatened to kill 400 jobs at the plant and shut down because of the “proposed revisions to tax policies.” At that time, Republican U.S. Sen. John Thune stopped the closure by pushing revisions of the 2017 tax bill to be more favorable to the industry.


Thune, in an emailed statement, said that it is troubling that at a time when wind energy is seeing record investment that this growth is not translating to American jobs. It’s especially hard for those working these good-paying jobs in Aberdeen to face uncertainty yet again. Thune criticized Biden's statement from his address to Congress — "There’s no reason, Biden said, "the blades for wind turbines can’t be built in Pittsburgh instead of Beijing.” But Beijing is getting all the business.


Bloomberg New Energy Finance recent ranking of global wind turbine manufacturers last year showed that 7 of the top 10 wind turbine manufacturers are Chinese companies. General Electric, an American company, is first, but Goldwind of China is in second place. The study also found more than half of the world’s newly installed wind power capacity was built in China in 2020.


Last month, Thune proposed an amendment to the Democrats’ expansive energy tax credit bill, requiring the administration to certify that U.S. manufacturers would not be undercut by foreign suppliers using low-cost labor and creating higher emissions. MFG, in closing its 14-year-old plant, cited precisely these two adverse factors as its reasons.


One day after the announcement, TC Energy, the Canadian pipeline company that sought to build the Keystone XL pipeline, announced that it was terminating the project, a 1,700-mile pipeline intended to carry 800,000 barrels of oil a day from Alberta to the Gulf Coast, passing through five states, including South Dakota.


Although the wind and pipeline industries are different sides of the climate change coin, both were considered economic lifelines to small-town South Dakota. Both promised economic stability and a revenue stream that would keep many towns hopping until tourism hit its stride once again.


“We are a smallish community of 28,000 people, so 300 jobs is a big deal,” said the family member of a worker. “Granted, two facilities in town, 3M and Banner Engineering, have recently doubled capacity, so most of the hourly employees should be absorbed by that,” she said. "However, some of these people have been with the company since 2008. How do you start over after 13 years?”


It is a question that has been asked by many Americans in manufacturing jobs, who have had to compete with cheaper overseas products for generations. And it is a question many workers in the energy industry may be asking soon.
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Keep your eye on the tax credit changes and tax policy revisions........Mr. Musk, are you paying attention ?
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the Beavis Butt-Head Biden effect.

yeah .. we told you. where's those greenjeans jobs Joey?


thank you valued posters.

South Dakota rocked again as a wind turbine plant shuts its doors

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-dak...043100112.html
Salena Zito
Sun, June 13, 2021, 11:31 PM






John F. Kerry, the special presidential envoy for climate, said only months ago that those losing fossil fuel jobs in coal and hydraulic fracturing will find they have a better choice in jobs in either the solar industry or as wind turbine technicians.


That was then. Now, a wind blade manufacturing plant located in Aberdeen, South Dakota has announced it is shutting its doors permanently in less than two months.


The disappearance of Molded Fiber Glass will displace over three hundred workers and their families. It marks another major loss of energy jobs in the state following President Joe Biden's halting of the Keystone Pipeline on the first day of his administration.


MFG said in a news release that the closure will happen because of changing market conditions, foreign competition, and proposed revisions to tax policies affecting the wind energy industry in the United States.


Since 2007, the Aberdeen plant has been producing wind turbine blades. The plant will remain in operation for the next two months until it has have fulfilled existing orders.


A family member of one of the workers said they were informed of the closure last Monday. Employees was completely taken off guard by the announcement. She was also perplexed by it. “They should be swimming in orders right now," she said.


In 2017 MFG threatened to kill 400 jobs at the plant and shut down because of the “proposed revisions to tax policies.” At that time, Republican U.S. Sen. John Thune stopped the closure by pushing revisions of the 2017 tax bill to be more favorable to the industry.


Thune, in an emailed statement, said that it is troubling that at a time when wind energy is seeing record investment that this growth is not translating to American jobs. It’s especially hard for those working these good-paying jobs in Aberdeen to face uncertainty yet again. Thune criticized Biden's statement from his address to Congress — "There’s no reason, Biden said, "the blades for wind turbines can’t be built in Pittsburgh instead of Beijing.” But Beijing is getting all the business.


Bloomberg New Energy Finance recent ranking of global wind turbine manufacturers last year showed that 7 of the top 10 wind turbine manufacturers are Chinese companies. General Electric, an American company, is first, but Goldwind of China is in second place. The study also found more than half of the world’s newly installed wind power capacity was built in China in 2020.


Last month, Thune proposed an amendment to the Democrats’ expansive energy tax credit bill, requiring the administration to certify that U.S. manufacturers would not be undercut by foreign suppliers using low-cost labor and creating higher emissions. MFG, in closing its 14-year-old plant, cited precisely these two adverse factors as its reasons.


One day after the announcement, TC Energy, the Canadian pipeline company that sought to build the Keystone XL pipeline, announced that it was terminating the project, a 1,700-mile pipeline intended to carry 800,000 barrels of oil a day from Alberta to the Gulf Coast, passing through five states, including South Dakota.


Although the wind and pipeline industries are different sides of the climate change coin, both were considered economic lifelines to small-town South Dakota. Both promised economic stability and a revenue stream that would keep many towns hopping until tourism hit its stride once again.


“We are a smallish community of 28,000 people, so 300 jobs is a big deal,” said the family member of a worker. “Granted, two facilities in town, 3M and Banner Engineering, have recently doubled capacity, so most of the hourly employees should be absorbed by that,” she said. "However, some of these people have been with the company since 2008. How do you start over after 13 years?”


It is a question that has been asked by many Americans in manufacturing jobs, who have had to compete with cheaper overseas products for generations. And it is a question many workers in the energy industry may be asking soon.

What the fuck are you blathering about?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyi...h=334fefa53665

There was a Covid related slump in 2020 but demand has already increased.
Where are the jobs? All around you. Open your eyes.
Stop watching TV news and research (at least read the whole article and don't make foolish claims without knowing what you're saying) the links you post.

Yes, that's a bitch for the town but that's not the way the industry goes.

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Wind power is a fantasy and can only survive when propped up by taxpayers.
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Wind turbines kills migratory birds and the placement and maintenance of the turbines leads to soil erosion. FACT
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What the fuck are you blathering about?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyi...h=334fefa53665

There was a Covid related slump in 2020 but demand has already increased.
Where are the jobs? All around you. Open your eyes.
Stop watching TV news and research (at least read the whole article and don't make foolish claims without knowing what you're saying) the links you post.

Yes, that's a bitch for the town but that's not the way the industry goes.


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the single biggest issue with wind power is it, like solar, needs a favorable geography to be viable. great for the plains states, not so much for others. same with solar. like some guy in Minnesota is gonna put 20k of solar panels on his roof only to have them covered in snow for 3 months. like her obsession with cow farts, AOC will now be demanding that minority home owners in northern states be given Government money to buy wipers for their solar panels ..


BAHHAAAAAAAA
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Wind turbines kills migratory birds and the placement and maintenance of the turbines leads to soil erosion. FACT
1st guy. A fantasy?
Is that why the numbers of turbines increase every year?
Wrong. Learn to read and then practice that new skill.
Read prior link.

2nd guy.

Compared to a coal mine? Or drilling for oil? Soil erosion from turbine is nothing compared to fossil fuels.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...nvironment.php


"Estimates of up to a million or more birds a year are killed by turbines in the US but that is far exceeded by collisions with communications towers (6.5 million); power lines, (25 million); windows (up to 1 billion); and cats (1.3 to 4.0 billion) and those lost due to habitat loss, pollution and climate change (American Bird Conservancy, Nature). Even if there were twenty times more wind turbines, enough to supply the US with electricity, the number of birds killed, assuming no improvement in wind turbine design, would be about 10 million--still far less than most other causes of bird deaths"

https://www.sierraclub.org/michigan/...birds-and-bats

OP was on loss of these jobs.

Stay on topic. Especially when you don't research the subject.
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Couldnt deny this! OK !



Plus fossil fuels are used to make/build/transport/and maintain these turbines. oopsie
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1st guy. A fantasy?
Is that why the numbers of turbines increase every year?
Wrong. Learn to read and then practice that new skill.
Read prior link.

2nd guy.

Compared to a coal mine? Or drilling for oil? Soil erosion from turbine is nothing compared to fossil fuels.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...nvironment.php


"Estimates of up to a million or more birds a year are killed by turbines in the US but that is far exceeded by collisions with communications towers (6.5 million); power lines, (25 million); windows (up to 1 billion); and cats (1.3 to 4.0 billion) and those lost due to habitat loss, pollution and climate change (American Bird Conservancy, Nature). Even if there were twenty times more wind turbines, enough to supply the US with electricity, the number of birds killed, assuming no improvement in wind turbine design, would be about 10 million--still far less than most other causes of bird deaths"

https://www.sierraclub.org/michigan/...birds-and-bats

OP was on loss of these jobs.

Stay on topic. Especially when you don't research the subject.

if you say so .. Munchmasterman
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the single biggest issue with wind power is it, like solar, needs a favorable geography to be viable. great for the plains states, not so much for others. same with solar. like some guy in Minnesota is gonna put 20k of solar panels on his roof only to have them covered in snow for 3 months. like her obsession with cow farts, AOC will now be demanding that minority home owners in northern states be given Government money to buy wipers for their solar panels ..


BAHHAAAAAAAA
Not because I say so.
Just facts.

Did the guy you called me bitch slap you a lot?

It's no big deal. It's easy to do that to you.

Maybe if you were wrong less.

I've noticed you claim anyone who proves you wrong is somebody else.
You're a Trumpy. You lie by nature. It bugs you a relatively new guy has figured out you're full of shit in just a few months.
That isn't much of an accomplishment.

Call me anything you want. Just don't call me late for dinner.
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