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Old 08-07-2012, 02:14 PM   #1
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Default Obama-Romney Kills Plant Worker's Wife

This is probably the most disgusting political ad I've ever seen. This guy claims his wife died because Romney closed the plant where he was working, causing them to lose their health insurance.

First of all, no one is entitled to their job. Whether a plant stays open or closes is up to the owner. If the plant had been making money, the plant would have stayed open. Why do we think that employers are obligated to give people jobs? Or keep people employed?

Romney had nothing to do with the woman's death. Obama should be ashamed.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-...ce-131276.html

Secondly, as long as we're on the subject, Mr. President, how many lives did you destroy when you terminated the pensions of 20,000 non-union auto company employees as part of your "bailout"? Did not those people have needs, like mortgages, insurance, etc? What will they do without their pensions? How many of them will die prematurely because they lack the funds they were promised, and cannot now afford health care?

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/em...kers-pensions/

Demagoguery of the worst sort. Why would ANYONE vote for that man?

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Old 08-07-2012, 02:30 PM   #2
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Secondly, as long as we're on the subject, Mr. President, how many lives did you destroy when you terminated the pensions of 20,000 non-union auto company employees as part of your "bailout"?



Did he really do that? Really????
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:31 PM   #3
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This is probably the most disgusting political ad I've ever seen. This guy claims his wife died because Romney closed the plant where he was working, causing them to lose their health insurance.

First of all, no one is entitled to their job. Whether a plant stays open or closes is up to the owner. If the plant had been making money, the plant would have stayed open. Why do we think that employers are obligated to give people jobs? Or keep people employed?

Romney had nothing to do with the woman's death. Obama should be ashamed.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/burns-...ce-131276.html

Secondly, as long as we're on the subject, Mr. President, how many lives did you destroy when you terminated the pensions of 20,000 non-union auto company employees as part of your "bailout"? Did not those people have needs, like mortgages, insurance, etc? What will they do without their pensions? How many of them will die prematurely because they lack the funds they were promised, and cannot now afford health care?

http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/em...kers-pensions/

Demagoguery of the worst sort. Why would ANYONE vote for that man?

Where are those emails the article mentioned. You would think they would have links.....oh well.

I thought no one had a right to a job ....or a pension.

First of all, no one is entitled to their job. Whether a plant stays open or closes is up to the owner. If the plant had been making money, the plant would have stayed open. Why do we think that employers are obligated to give people jobs? Or keep people employed?

Which view is correct? Your first or second? Are you going to say both?
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:37 PM   #4
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Just pointing out the hypocrisy, Munchie. Nuance eludes you, doesn't it? Obama jumps all over Romney for closing the plant and killing that guys wife. Then it turns out that he terminated the pensions of 20,000 non-union auto workers.

Why is it ok to screw non-union auto workers out of a pension they had already earned, but when a plant closes because it can't make money, it proves that Romney is heartless?

Obama is a lying hypocrite. I have no idea why anyone would vote for him.
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:43 PM   #5
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Did he really do that? Really????

Delphi is a parts company owned by GM .. you know what happened to GM in 08 ... so goes Delphi .. only GM didnt include Delphi in their bailout $$ and Delphi went down the tubes....


As a result of the Delphi Corporation bankruptcy, for example, Delphi and the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation were forced to terminate Delphi’s pension plans, which means there are Delphi retirees who unfortunately will collect less than their full pension benefits,” Former Treasury official Matthew Feldman testified on July 11, 2012.
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Again, you didn't read the article. Do you have trouble with words, CBJ7?
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Again, you didn't read the article. Do you have trouble with words, CBJ7?
do you have a problem with facts?


sure you do
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Shit like that did not fly in Texas in the Dewhurst ad against Ted Cruz.
I doubt it will fly for Obama.
Except for the gullible that will believe anything they see on TV.
Of shit, that is who Obama is campaigning to.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:08 PM   #9
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Giving them enough rope COG...

You will no doubt mention later that Romney had been out of Bain for years before this women got sick and died. In fact he was no longer at Bain when this company was shutdown. The woman went to the hospital to get some healthcare and they found that she had cancer and not pneumonia. If she and her husband had acted sooner (their personal choice) they may have discovered the cancer before it reached stage 4.

The only politician attached to this sad chapter is Obama.
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he retired retro ..


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Old 08-07-2012, 03:22 PM   #11
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Giving them enough rope COG...

You will no doubt mention later that Romney had been out of Bain for years before this women got sick and died. In fact he was no longer at Bain when this company was shutdown. The woman went to the hospital to get some healthcare and they found that she had cancer and not pneumonia. If she and her husband had acted sooner (their personal choice) they may have discovered the cancer before it reached stage 4.

The only politician attached to this sad chapter is Obama.
The "give a man enough rope" metaphor make not be the best choice for Obama. Someone may accuse you of being insensitive.
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Old 08-07-2012, 03:55 PM   #12
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Romney had nothing to do with the woman's death. Obama should be ashamed.

Demagoguery of the worst sort. Why would ANYONE vote for that man?

Too bad for you it's not even an Obama ad.

But as CJ7 points out, facts aren't your strong suit.
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:04 PM   #13
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Who's ad is it, then? If not supporting Obama, who are they supporting? Roseanne Barr?
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Who's ad is it, then? If not supporting Obama, who are they supporting? Roseanne Barr?
Obies allies aka super pac ... tantamount to the Swift Boaters running ads against Lurch
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Old 08-07-2012, 04:12 PM   #15
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Then Obama should denounce the ad. He has, as you know, called for more civility in our political discourse.

But I don't think he meant that, either. It's just a way to bash the non-libs when they tell the truth about him.
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