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10-04-2023, 01:34 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Aug 12, 2023
Location: Chicago
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Whats the general view on verification?
Now this came up after a discussion regarding deposits and verification. Now deposits, I get where providers are coming from. A little insurance, and if things go south or they are a no show you walk away with something, and if they don't wanna do it then they probably didn't have the best intentions anyway.
I get it, it's just personally unless they accept bitcoin or cashapp I'd rather not do anything electronically, leaves too much of a paper trail.
However when it comes to verification, that's when I start to get a little confrontational. So wait. You want me to give you my real name, a picture of myself, AND the place that I work?
Ok one doing that would make things like burner phones completely pointless and two, why should I risk my private info when you wont. It would be one thing if you were a long established agency, but if you're an indie? That's just multiple red flags for me.
I would think there would be a mutual understanding that both parties would wanna remain anonymous, but apparently that's not the case. Like am I missing something here?
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10-04-2023, 09:38 PM
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Premium Access
Join Date: Oct 16, 2009
Location: Rochester
Posts: 6,198
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I won't give any personal info, I have reviews and references and if that isn't enough ....next. It's tougher in your case with no history but I still wouldn't give any info that could come back to haunt you.
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10-05-2023, 04:38 AM
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BANNED
Join Date: Feb 17, 2018
Location: Ok
Posts: 4,288
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I don't send dick pictures, as can be used for black male even if have other ducks in roll it annoying. I will exchange a face pick but she needs to send one as well. I don't send money cash app. I personally on trust the real on let alone how many scammers out there..
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10-05-2023, 07:00 AM
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(Xzn/Xzan)
Join Date: Aug 11, 2016
Location: Harmaston
Posts: 4,839
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Originally Posted by Masalic
Like am I missing something here?
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You're missing a lot.
Some ladies like to use the phrase "Her pussy, her rules!". So sure she can request personal info & deposits.
But it's also your money, your rules so you can comply with her requirements or just as easily thank her & look for someone else.
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10-05-2023, 07:26 AM
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BANNED
Join Date: Feb 17, 2018
Location: Ok
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Originally Posted by MarcellusWalluz
You'"Her pussy, her rules!".
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It my hard earn money and my Dick this is why I hobby if she gets to funny I simply block her number and move on. Have the felling to move on. Even if made a appointment I have shown up at her incall hotel and sent her photo only to turn around with out seeing her. Never pay a deposit she don't trust you why and hack you trust he. Most guys have lot ways there prove them self. Eight way provider or John don't be desperate keep you hands between you legs.
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10-05-2023, 07:32 AM
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Join Date: Feb 17, 2018
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Ways to verify 1.history, 2.real name criminal record and phone number. 3.Between 2am and 6am cops don't do stings there take days to jail.
4. Avoid the trap and common location
5. Get there story. What like are real do need cash up front? Do have STD.
6. A simple photo exchange and what think is good.
7. Don't be desperate it don't feel right you tired forget it. Start over.
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10-05-2023, 09:17 AM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Aug 12, 2023
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by Ripmany
Ways to verify 1.history, 2.real name criminal record and phone number. 3.Between 2am and 6am cops don't do stings there take days to jail.
4. Avoid the trap and common location
5. Get there story. What like are real do need cash up front? Do have STD.
6. A simple photo exchange and what think is good.
7. Don't be desperate it don't feel right you tired forget it. Start over.
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This is why I said it just seems easier to just go through an agency or go to a rotating AMP.
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10-05-2023, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Feb 17, 2018
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Originally Posted by Masalic
This is why I said it just seems easier to just go through an agency or go to a rotating AMP.
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Some how my sticker self don't find agency which don't exist other than pimps and I amp never been to eighter..
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10-19-2023, 10:03 AM
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Upgraded Female Account
User ID: 393863
Join Date: Mar 26, 2017
Location: Mo & Ks
Posts: 3,485
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"why should I risk my private info when you wont." I do, with every visitor.
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11-02-2023, 09:49 AM
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BANNED
Join Date: Dec 6, 2016
Location: Tarrant County
Posts: 3,405
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Having a client pay a deposit is not a way to verify him, but it is way for a provider to stiff him. When a provider wants real world info to verify a potential client (again, this does not do anything for a provider's safety), then she also needs to give up her real world info to him. That is like a guy thinking he is going to get fantastic service based only on what she looks like in her pictures or 100% believing what she states in an ad.
He needs to move to a provider who will validate his p411 info and/or check references of providers HE HAS SEEN BCD in the past. If that is not good enough for a provider, then move on to the next one on your list.
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11-02-2023, 10:52 AM
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It’s a vibe 💋
User ID: 355668
Join Date: Jul 3, 2016
Location: Webster/Clear Lake Area
Posts: 4,524
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Originally Posted by Masalic
Now this came up after a discussion regarding deposits and verification. Now deposits, I get where providers are coming from. A little insurance, and if things go south or they are a no show you walk away with something, and if they don't wanna do it then they probably didn't have the best intentions anyway.
I get it, it's just personally unless they accept bitcoin or cashapp I'd rather not do anything electronically, leaves too much of a paper trail.
However when it comes to verification, that's when I start to get a little confrontational. So wait. You want me to give you my real name, a picture of myself, AND the place that I work?
Ok one doing that would make things like burner phones completely pointless and two, why should I risk my private info when you wont. It would be one thing if you were a long established agency, but if you're an indie? That's just multiple red flags for me.
I would think there would be a mutual understanding that both parties would wanna remain anonymous, but apparently that's not the case. Like am I missing something here?
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this is where doing your research comes in, you want to make sure she a well known provider, good rep, not a rip off chick, reviews help, you just have to screen Per say .
I’m a provider who screens real world and collects deposits no issues ever in my career, but you’re going to hear every guy that posts don’t do deposits you’re stupid etc…NO just do your due diligence . That’s all and if you’re not comfortable on to the next there’s plenty who don’t screen which is bad too.
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11-02-2023, 11:50 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Aug 5, 2010
Location: Houston Area
Posts: 6,178
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Safety is always a thing in the hobby. We all want to be physically, medically and legally safe.
Verification of hobbyists on the part of providers addresses those concerns to some extent . . .it is what they can do.
Verification is a difficult hurdle for the low frequency hobbyist. If you only step out twice a year or even every few months, it can be imposable to get verified with an independant provider.
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11-02-2023, 12:13 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 28, 2010
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 15,482
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There needs to be a sticky for new guys getting into this where they can learn what not to do, no deposits, no real world information, no photo verification.
The more nonsense guys give into, the more they will pick up the sucker bar, there's plenty that won't ask for any of this, support them. They're trying to make pennies while losing dollars with these requirements
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11-02-2023, 12:21 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Aug 12, 2023
Location: Chicago
Posts: 70
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Originally Posted by BLM69
There needs to be a sticky for new guys getting into this where they can learn what not to do, no deposits, no real world information, no photo verification.
The more nonsense guys give into, the more they will pick up the sucker bar, there's plenty that won't ask for any of this, support them. They're trying to make pennies while losing dollars with these requirements
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They actually got a mantra similar to that on the escortclients subreddit which boils down to "No cash in advance" and "Only go to reviewed providers"
Personally I'd probably be more leniant and be like "Cash only on the first visit and then deposits on subsequent visits"
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11-02-2023, 12:30 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 28, 2010
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 15,482
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Originally Posted by Masalic
They actually got a mantra similar to that on the escortclients subreddit which boils down to "No cash in advance" and "Only go to reviewed providers"
Personally I'd probably be more leniant and be like "Cash only on the first visit and then deposits on subsequent visits"
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When I started reviews were valued by both sides and that was the most important way of verifying, the one's that kept steady good reviews were busy
There wasn't no deposits or send over personal information, no begging on social media for gifts (imagine hookers begging from lunch $ to transmissions) quality was way better
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