Tips for staying safe in the hobby...

[Generic White Guy]

To clarify, I am a casual when it come to the hobby... Strip clubs an an occasional provider appointment ... Not near as active as some on here, but active enough...

There are always posts on ECCIE about LE activity, stings / busts, SMU Law Professors getting in trouble, etc. Then you have pimps, thieves, etc.

Let's keep this thread about avoiding trouble with The Man / LE...

I know a few of the basics:

- Hobby Phone
- Read reviews of Providers
- Read posts by Providers
- Etc...

What is your advice to avoid trouble?

Also, I was sending PMs to a Provider (and did recently), but she stopped posting, has no ads or reviews in the last 30 days - which is a different pattern for her... She still responds to PMs and said to text her. To schedule an appointment (her usual number). Is it possible for a Provider to get pinched and have LE take over her account?

Thanks in advance for the advice for the paranoid...

[Prolongus]

Anything is possible.
With all the crime going on, I can't understand why LE puts out the time and effort to snare a couple having fun in bed.

Now...fun on a park bench, on the hood of a Chevy in a mall parking lot, courthouse steps, 10th row of a Mavs game...well, I can see their concern there.

[ktiix]

-Cash
-Hobby Phone
-Common Sense
-Follow your instincts, if you feel like you should split, split.

[rexdutchman]

Reviews, reviews, reviews well established providers ( the good ones will always be checking there ads etc.)

[L.A.]

I've only seen girls with a presence on here and/or P411. They would also have to have some reviews that are legitimate. I also find a few that I like and stay in that circle so I'm not usually seeing too many new faces.

I would never see somebody that's only on backpage (or really even some other website).
If they aren't here or P411 then I probably don't even know they exist.
I can find what I need on these two sites so I don't have a need to go somewhere I feel poses a higher risk.

That's worked for me for a long time....I see no reason to change.


However...if you are seeing somebody that you're not 100% sure about. Don't mention anything illegal. Like the video of that preacher that got caught in the sting. Was it really necessary for him to say he "wanted head"? No shit you wanted head..you're with an escort so why even say that?
He might still get arrested but if he's on tape and never mentions anything illegal it's going to be difficult to prosecute. I wonder what would have happened if he never mentioned anything illegal and just got naked and got on the bed. That would have been pretty damn funny. Or just ask her to get naked and model for him. I don't think nude modeling is illegal.
Anyway if you're not 100% sure don't mention money or a sex act or any illegal act.

[DallasRain]

get involved in discussions and let people know a little about you

research the gal you wanna see and if you want to then write some of the guys who have reviewed her for more advice

leave personal stuff in the car when going to a session

[Zhivago52]

hobby phone purchased with cash and renewed with cash annually

read reviews....read reviews....read reviews.....

as for me, I stick with the mature ladies; may youngers are being pimped or have company around

stick with 411 ladies if possible.

Incall important ... nice hotel; prefer the larger ones that have capability to host conferences. More of a chance you blend in with a crowd. If a home, nice secure neighborhood.

No first time visits to an incall at night. I tend to hobby daylight hours for this reason.

I refrain from ladies who offer 1/2 hour or quickie visits. OK for all that if you have an established relationship, but for first times, no thanks.

appointments set up by text are a no-go. Prefer emails / PMs back and forth to get a sense of what the lady is all about

find a good lady and stay with her. If you feel the need for "strange", have her introduce you to her hobby friends.

[HDnTX]

+1 on Zhivago52 advice. stay away from cheap notel's.

[Say What]

This is easy...don't do anything illegal.

Don't EVER pay anyone for sex. There is nothing illegal about giving a girl a late or early birthday present. Cash is a good one because she can pick out the shoes or dress herself.

Put her "gift" in an unsealed birthday card so it's obvious to anyone that sees it that IT IS A BIRTHDAY GIFT.

Don't talk about anything that's illegal...because you're not doing anything illegal. There is nothing illegal about telling a lady what your sexual preferences are.

Don't see ladies that could even possibly be under 18 years old. Remember, even if you're not paying for sex, sex with a minor is illegal...and you should be punished for it. So, don't do it.

Well known ladies with solid reputations are a good way to get in the game and stay in it safely.

[Guests021916]

I will add don't do outcalls to your home. Do as I say not as I have done.. haha
I never had a problem, but it is a worry afterwards.. remember you really do not know these gals situation. They might never mean you harm but others they are associated with might have no problem with it..

[LuckOfTheOrient]

Originally Posted by Say What

This is easy...don't do anything illegal.

Don't EVER pay anyone for sex. There is nothing illegal about giving a girl a late or early birthday present. Cash is a good one because she can pick out the shoes or dress herself.

Put her "gift" in an unsealed birthday card so it's obvious to anyone that sees it that IT IS A BIRTHDAY GIFT.

Don't talk about anything that's illegal...because you're not doing anything illegal. There is nothing illegal about telling a lady what your sexual preferences are.

Don't see ladies that could even possibly be under 18 years old. Remember, even if you're not paying for sex, sex with a minor is illegal...and you should be punished for it. So, don't do it.

Well known ladies with solid reputations are a good way to get in the game and stay in it safely.

Sound advice.

[ftango4]

Advice to avoid trouble...14 in the clip and one in the chamber..." Regulate. lol

Mike Reiner, The Ticket, The Hard LIne (its from another song))

[rexdutchman]

stay away from motels / street walkers to easy for the coppers to sting

[mikecross]

Be careful even with a hobby phone. Because most girls wont accept block calls and save your number in their phone. Le if or when the arrest these girls are sending out text and in some cases calling numbers in their phone and setting up stings. You think it is safe because it is coming from someone you know. Make sure you dont say or text anything even on a hobby phone that they may be able to use against you.

[Ramblin'Man]

+1 to every point made so far, and let me add that the little head should point the way, but the big head must pick the destination! In other words, don't trust the little head with big decisions. It can be a challenge.