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Old 02-25-2012, 02:38 PM   #1
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Default Maybe I'm wrong but then again.

I was going to start by saying that we need more oil and Obama promises us algae. I started to do some research about algae oil and got a couple of surprises. It is claimed (I am still a cynic) that about 50 lbs of algae will produce 1 gallon of oil if, IF, the oil content is 40%. I couldn't find how high 40% is or if it is a pipedream. Still, what little I have looked at so far does make a point that algae can be grown in large amounts in a small amount of area. The big point I discovered that this could work if the government gave them TAX CREDITS for research and development. Note that, TAX CREDITS and not tax money.

This brings me to something else; I have been reading about the White City. That is the fair put together in 1892-93 by the city of Chicago to celebrate the 400th anniversary of Columbus. Chicago pulled out all the stops to best Paris and show up New York City. Chicago has always had an inferiority complex when it comes to NYC. Anyway, a Chicago architect named Burnham was elected/hired to be in charge. Here is where it become relevant. Burnham had to have...something that would best the lastest thing in France, the Eiffel Tower. Now Burnham was getting funds from children, philanthropists, Chicago, and the federal government. Like Obama he could have done everything and tried anything regardless of the cost or common sense of the project. One such proposal was a log tower 5,000 feet high with a log cabin at the top. Unlike Obama, he didn't. He waited and listened. He investigated and thought if these people were crazy or not. Finally a young engineer came to Burnham with an idea. It sounded far-fetched and crazy but the engineer went back to Pittsburg and did the numbers. He came back on his own dollar and with his own plans paid for by himself. No government money involved here. Burnham looked it over and saw the numbers. It was incredible but the numbers looked very good. Burnham contacted George Ferris and said he could build his "wheel" of steel.
The point is that Burnham, with taxpayer funds, picked his projects carefully. The projected Ferris Wheel was incredible but the engineering worked.
I don't know if any Obama donor has money in algae (I won't be surprised now that Obama has brought it up) but this project makes more sense than Solyndra or the rest and it doesn't cost the taxpayer anything.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:26 PM   #2
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credits or not, Shell ditched their alge production/research (bio fuel) a couple of years ago. Unless Im mistaken the upswing for alge began in 07, while you know who was prez.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:29 PM   #3
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07 is correct

http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/18138/
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:35 PM   #4
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Oh, so I have to give the credit to Bush. I watched the speech again and Obama was floating something that was not yet in existence. Makes me think of the "Music Man". An old musical starring Robert Preston who played...what is that word? Oh, yes...a CON MAN who was selling something that didn't exist. So I guess we know where Obama got his research skills.
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:44 PM   #5
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not sure where you get it (alge/biofuels) doesnt exist, but then again I'n not sure where you come up with most of your material
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Old 02-27-2012, 01:47 PM   #6
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http://www.nrel.gov/biomass/pdfs/benemann.pdf

I wouldnt give credit to Shrub, I certainly didnt.
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Old 02-27-2012, 03:20 PM   #7
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I liked the over the road truckers who converted the fuel to run on cooking oil they got from restaurants.It is nice to follow a truck and the exhaust smells like french fries rather than diesel.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:36 AM   #8
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Won't it smell like fried fish?
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Old 02-28-2012, 07:25 AM   #9
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Won't it smell like fried fish?

Depends on the restaurant LOL No long john silvers.
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Old 02-29-2012, 07:22 AM   #10
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Oh, so I have to give the credit to Bush. I watched the speech again and Obama was floating something that was not yet in existence. Makes me think of the "Music Man". An old musical starring Robert Preston who played...what is that word? Oh, yes...a CON MAN who was selling something that didn't exist. So I guess we know where Obama got his research skills.
In case you forgot, everybody got their uniforms and instruments at the end of The Music Man. They all marched off into the sunset playing "76 Trombones".
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Old 03-04-2012, 12:31 AM   #11
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That was the magic that saved Harold Hills ass and not reality. Otherwise, where is my green energy that is cheap, plentiful jobs, the respect of the world, and world peace. Isn't that what Barach Hussein Hill promised?
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:21 PM   #12
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There's trouble in River City...with a capital B that rhymes with "Parack".
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Obama is Munchies Shipoopi.
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How about a little Optimisim.....Sorry ...O only wants Commyism. .......WTF
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