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Old 08-25-2012, 03:46 AM   #1
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Default New Audio Surfaces of Obama Defending Infanticide

That President Barack Obama was the only member of the Illinois legislature to not support a bill to provide medical care for newborns who survived failed late-term abortions.
http://www.lifenews.com/2012/08/23/n...e-in-illinois/
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Old 08-25-2012, 03:58 AM   #2
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The man has lied repeatedly about this stand of his. He is scum of the first order.
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:04 AM   #3
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That exchange is chilling....Obama is a monster.

Thanks for posting.
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:23 AM   #4
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Default This is WTF you numbnuts object too?

This is WTF you numbnuts object too? More government intervention? Would you support a bill where you had to get two doctors to approve of your viagra? How about a bill where you need two ER doctors to make sure that was a gunshot wound before proceeding? WTF is wrong with you so called small government Conseratives? Oh wait , you are not, you are in fact the RHINO's that you so despise!









OBAMA: Let me just go to the bill, very quickly. Essentially, I think, as — as this emerged during debate and during committee, the only plausible rationale, to my mind, for this legislation would be if you had a suspicion that a doctor, the attending physician, who has made an assessment that this is a nonviable fetus and that, lets say for the purposes of the mother’s health, is being — that — that labor is being induced, that that physician (a) is going to make the wrong assessment and (b) if the physician discovered, after the labor had been induced, that, in fact, he made an error, or she made an error, and, in fact, that that physician, of his own accord or her own accord, would not try to exercise the sort of medical measures and practices that would be involved in saving that child. Now, if — if you think that there are possibilities that doctors would not do that, then maybe this bill makes sense, but I — I suspect and my impression is, is that the Medical Society suspects as well that doctors feel that they would be under that obligation, that they would already be making these determinations and that, essentially, adding a — an additional doctor who then has to be called in an emergency situation to come in and make these assessments is really designed simply to burden the original decision of the woman and the physician to induce labor and perform an abortion. Now, if that’s the case – and –and I know that some of us feel very strongly one way or another on that issue – that’s fine, but I think it’s important to understand that this issue ultimately is about abortion and not live births. Because if these children are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they’re looked after. Thank you, Mr. President.”
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Old 08-25-2012, 06:37 AM   #5
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Very lame WTF. Your post shows just how ignorant you are on the issues.
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:15 AM   #6
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sounds like a big jump in insurance premiums....
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:20 AM   #7
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Our country was founded on the belief that we have a God given right to life, not a God given right to abortion. Obama does not believe in the right to life. He believes that a woman's so called right to choose is more important than her child's right to live.

Withholding medical care to a newborn baby is infanticide, which is a fancy word for murder.

Obama believes that it's acceptable to kill children. Obama is an evil man and that makes him dangerous.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:05 AM   #8
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Seeing there was no link to the actual bill how do you know what all was in it?
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:10 AM   #9
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Seeing there was no link to the actual bill how do you know what all was in it?
I've been following this story for several years. Just Google The born alive act.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:11 AM   #10
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How is asking for a second opinion "Hey, Doc. You think this baby could live?" adding more government? That is one of the stupidest comments I've heard in a awhile.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:15 AM   #11
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How is asking for a second opinion "Hey, Doc. You think this baby could live?" adding more government? That is one of the stupidest comments I've heard in a awhile.

They definitely won't live, if you stick them in a storage room, and check in on them every couple of days.
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Old 08-25-2012, 09:38 AM   #12
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Default wtf is confused again

what it comes down to is the reverse of what liberals try to make it out to be, more government control

for the sake of statism, for the sake of controlling the organs of government, for the ability to control by the power of taxation, for the power of spending which is tantamount to taxation, for the power to change and remake, obama and his ilk would make any pact or cross any limit to grasp that power.

the conservative today is about reducing the power of government, obama is all about increasing it. the liberal isnt about liberality, he is about control and force

so the government that controls is obama's, the government that limits and protects the weakest isnt obama's
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:33 AM   #13
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Obama believes that it's acceptable to kill children. Obama is an evil man and that makes him dangerous.
Pretty big leap, given:

Because if these children are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they’re looked after.

Your stupidity is what's dangerous.
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Old 08-25-2012, 10:47 AM   #14
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If we're going to start rating dangerous stupidity, you will win that one by 99 yards, Doove.
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They definitely won't live, if you stick them in a storage room, and check in on them every couple of days.

Oh well hell now we know what happened to you...
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