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03-01-2012, 08:13 PM
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All true?/ hahahahahahahah
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03-01-2012, 09:38 PM
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Ok, Ekum. Which ones are false? Take some time away from congratulating yourself without knowing anything, and point out which ones are false. Simple, really.
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03-02-2012, 06:58 AM
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The government claims that every single air traveler must be intimately searched baloney, I have never been intimately searched and confirmed harmless in order to protect the safety of a few hundred passengers on the plane, but that very same government conducts no safety testing whatsoever on each batch of toxic fluoride chemicals dumped into municipal water supplies that threaten baloney, no it doesn;t the health of tens of millions!
• The government aggressively attacks raw milk farmers and food cooperatives who sell fresh milk to a few hundred people, claiming raw milk is extremely dangerous to the public baloney no they don;t , yet that same government does absolutely nothing baloney yes they do to protect the public from MSG (obesity), aspartame (seizures and blindness), high fructose corn syrup (diabetes), sodium nitrite (cancer) and artificial food colors (behavioral disorders) that impact virtually the entire population! (At least a million times as many people eat MSG than drink raw dairy...)
• The government claims that it has the right to force all children to be forcibly vaccinated because it "protects society," yet this is by definition an open admission that vaccines don't work because otherwise all the vaccinated children would be 100% protected against unvaccinated children in the first place (and having unvaccinated children running around wouldn't matter) I can;t even begin to describe how much baloney this is.
• The FDA is now proposing that long-time nutritional supplement ingredients like vitamin C, ginger root and Echinacea must undergo a lengthy new safety review and approval process, yet the USDA openly approves the widespread experimental planting of genetically modified crops (GMOs) with absolutely no safety testing whatsoever baloney again -- all under the absurd presumption that GMOs are essentially "identical" to non-GMO crops. Except they aren't identical, otherwise they couldn't be patented, could they? What part of the word "modified" does the USDA not grasp?
• In many cities, the government says all children must wear helmets when riding their bicycles while adults are required to wear helmets when they ride motorcycles. But all those same people are openly allowed to go break their legs and crack their skulls wide open on a ski slope without even signing a waiver! Why is bicycling down the sidewalk so dangerous while barreling down a 3,000-foot mountain on a snowboard is acceptably safe? (Hint: because it's not about safety, it's about tourism money.) baloney, ever seen the stats on motorcycle accident?
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03-02-2012, 06:59 AM
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CoG, I had hoped you had some brain cells, but it seems I am bitterly disappointed.
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03-02-2012, 11:04 AM
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CoG, I had hoped you had some brain cells, but it seems I am bitterly disappointed.
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Didn't you see my 'lather, rinse, repeat' comment? That's his m.o. He posts the link, obviously paints it as if because he posted a link it's somehow 'his' facts, then jumps on anyone that questions with the famous 'how is not true? prove it.'...all the while unable to back said assertions with any of his own facts. Well how could he, he doesn't have any original thoughts only what the anti-government websites have him brainwashed into believing. Zoiks! He's 'conforming' to their beliefs and by waving their banners he's 'submitting' to their whims and 'complying' with their dogma!!! What a fucking sheep.
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03-02-2012, 12:46 PM
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Ok, Ekum. Which ones are false? Take some time away from congratulating yourself without knowing anything, and point out which ones are false. Simple, really.
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Raw milk - is safe if the cows are tested
Vaccines - this is forced by the medical field saying there is no evidence this causes autism and the pharmaceutical company's producing it.
Helmets-A insurance produced bill to help cut down on injury claims.
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03-02-2012, 03:20 PM
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Essence, you posted nothing except your opinion. All those things are backed up by facts. You'd rather ridicule than refute. I understand. When the facts are against you, try to yell louder.
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03-02-2012, 09:38 PM
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• The government aggressively attacks raw milk farmers and food cooperatives who sell fresh milk to a few hundred people, claiming raw milk is extremely dangerous to the public baloney no they don;t , yet that same government does absolutely nothing baloney yes they do to protect the public from MSG (obesity), aspartame (seizures and blindness), high fructose corn syrup (diabetes), sodium nitrite (cancer) and artificial food colors (behavioral disorders) that impact virtually the entire population! (At least a million times as many people eat MSG than drink raw dairy...)
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if that's the case, then why is aspartame is still being sold as an artificial sweetner? it is based on a chlorine compound.
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03-03-2012, 07:28 AM
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And mention of seat belts?
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03-03-2012, 11:53 AM
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The government claims that every single air traveler must be intimately searched and confirmed harmless in order to protect the safety of a few hundred passengers on the plane, but that very same government conducts no safety testing whatsoever on each batch of toxic fluoride chemicals dumped into municipal water supplies that threaten the health of tens of millions!
• The government aggressively attacks raw milk farmers and food cooperatives who sell fresh milk to a few hundred people, claiming raw milk is extremely dangerous to the public, yet that same government does absolutely nothing to protect the public from MSG (obesity), aspartame (seizures and blindness), high fructose corn syrup (diabetes), sodium nitrite (cancer) and artificial food colors (behavioral disorders) that impact virtually the entire population! (At least a million times as many people eat MSG than drink raw dairy...)
• The government claims that it has the right to force all children to be forcibly vaccinated because it "protects society," yet this is by definition an open admission that vaccines don't work because otherwise all the vaccinated children would be 100% protected against unvaccinated children in the first place (and having unvaccinated children running around wouldn't matter).
• The FDA is now proposing that long-time nutritional supplement ingredients like vitamin C, ginger root and Echinacea must undergo a lengthy new safety review and approval process, yet the USDA openly approves the widespread experimental planting of genetically modified crops (GMOs) with absolutely no safety testing whatsoever -- all under the absurd presumption that GMOs are essentially "identical" to non-GMO crops. Except they aren't identical, otherwise they couldn't be patented, could they? What part of the word "modified" does the USDA not grasp?
• In many cities, the government says all children must wear helmets when riding their bicycles while adults are required to wear helmets when they ride motorcycles. But all those same people are openly allowed to go break their legs and crack their skulls wide open on a ski slope without even signing a waiver! Why is bicycling down the sidewalk so dangerous while barreling down a 3,000-foot mountain on a snowboard is acceptably safe? (Hint: because it's not about safety, it's about tourism money.)
• The federal government says that private citizens should only prepare for a maximum of a 3-day event such as a hurricane or storm. But the federal government itself has spent tens of billions of dollars building massive underground cave networks where decades of supplies are stockpiled: Food, water, guns, ammunition, medical supplies, communications equipment, non-hybrid seeds and much more. The message? YOU don't need to be safe, but WE do!
• City police departments claim they can roll their video cameras 24/7, filming you and your actions that happen in public spaces because it's all part of "public safety." But what happens when YOU try to film the police in those same public spaces? You get threatened, intimidated and arrested! (http://tv.naturalnews.com/v.asp?v=783B7C44AA93208D325B26 FBB54FE025)
So who is keeping the People safe from crooked cops, then?
• The government says its War on Drugs protects the public from all the danger and criminality of the underground drug market. But it's the government that forced the drug market to go underground by criminalizing it! By choosing to decriminalize all recreational drug use, the government could end the criminality, suck all the profits out of street dealing, end the drug gang violence, collapse the Mexican drug cartels and halt the DEA's drug war violence which frequently results in rogue agents breaking down the wrong guy's door in the middle of the night and then shooting the family dog.
If the government really cared about public safety, they would protect the citizens from the DEA!
• You're supposed to be scared of using nasal irrigation devices which the CDC now warns may cause you to die from "brain-eating amoeba!" (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2012/02/28/cdc-issues-warning-about-nasal-...) But at the same time, when the Fukushima nuclear facility went into a total meltdown and unleashed radioactive fallout across North America, Americans were all told there was nothing to worry about (while the EPA quietly raised the "allowable limits" of radiation exposure by literally 50,000 times or more for some isotopes).
• The CDC and WHO declared a "stage 6 pandemic" over the H5N1 flu scare, setting off a worldwide fear campaign focused on public safety. Yet when evidence continues to surface about all the tens of thousands of children who are stricken with autism each year -- mere hours after receiving multiple vaccine shots -- the government abandons any thought of safety and quietly pays off the parents of the autistic children through a secret vaccine injury compensation court whose cash payouts require total silence on the part of parents.
Then what about these true facts of history?
• 1932 - The U.S. Public Health Service in Tuskegee, Ala. diagnoses 400 poor, black sharecroppers with syphilis but never tells them of their illness nor treats them; instead researchers use the men as human guinea pigs to follow the symptoms and progression of the disease. They all eventually die from syphilis and their families are never told that they could have been treated (Goliszek, University of Virginia Health System Health Sciences Library). (http://www.naturalnews.com/019189.html)
• 1945 - The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence and the CIA begin Operation Paperclip, offering Nazi scientists immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top-secret government projects on aerodynamics and chemical warfare medicine in the United States ("Project Paperclip").
• 1946 - The U.S. government knowingly funded and deliberately engaged in criminal medical experiments against Guatemalan prisoners, and the scientists engaged in these crimes were then promoted to high levels of influence in the medical community. At least 5,500 people were drafted into the experiments, including children, women and the mentally ill. The number deliberately infected with sexually-transmitted diseases (STDs) exceeded 1,300. Many died.
• 1947 - Col. E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) issues a top-secret document (707075) dated Jan. 8. In it, he writes that "certain radioactive substances are being prepared for intravenous administration to human subjects as a part of the work of the contract" (Goliszek).
A secret AEC document dated April 17 reads, "It is desired that no document be released which refers to experiments with humans that might have an adverse reaction on public opinion or result in legal suits," revealing that the U.S. government was aware of the health risks its nuclear tests posed to military personnel conducting the tests or nearby civilians (Goliszek).
• 1978 - The CDC begins experimental hepatitis B vaccine trials in New York. Its ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men. Professor Wolf Szmuness of the Columbia University School of Public Health had made the vaccine's infective serum from the pooled blood serum of hepatitis-infected homosexuals and then developed it in chimpanzees, the only animal susceptible to hepatitis B, leading to the theory that HIV originated in chimpanzees before being transferred over to humans via this vaccine. A few months after 1,083 homosexual men receive the vaccine, New York physicians begin noticing cases of Kaposi's sarcoma, Mycoplasma penetrans and a new strain of herpes virus among New York's homosexual community -- diseases not usually seen among young, American men, but that would later be known as common opportunistic diseases associated with AIDS (Goliszek). (http://www.naturalnews.com/019187.html)
• 1996 - Professor Adil E. Shamoo of the University of Maryland and the organization Citizens for Responsible Care and Research sends a written testimony on the unethical use of veterans in medical research to the U.S. Senate's Committee on Governmental Affairs, stating: "This type of research is on-going nationwide in medical centers and VA hospitals supported by tens of millions of dollars of taxpayer money. These experiments are high risk and are abusive, causing not only physical and psychic harm to the most vulnerable groups but also degrading our society's system of basic human values. Probably tens of thousands of patients are being subjected to such experiments" ("Testimony of Adil E. Shamoo, Ph.D.").
• 1997 - In an experiment sponsored by the U.S. government, researchers withhold medical treatment from HIV-positive African-American pregnant women, giving them a placebo rather than AIDS medication.
You stand next to a turgid douche bag, your arm draped proudly around the neck of your companion (thought of as a hose by non-hose bags). Without a clue, you’ll say something to the effect, “Here is more evidence that my freedoms are reduced and we are sinking into a sea of socialism” (you are sinking in a sea but it isn’t socialism-see bag next to you). You claim they are true.
How many of the included examples need to be shown to be misrepresented, pure bullshit, irrelevant or nothing more than the unaware opinion of a guy who gets paid to stir people up, do you need to admit you are one of the people shitting in the pool? You said they are true, so only 1 being wrong makes you wrong.
I know, let’s add achievement levels.
0 wrong, misrepresented, etc. etc. I will put a statement into my signature block with a suitable reference to this event. It will remain there till Spring starts.
1 wrong, misrepresented, etc. etc. You will be wrong…..again.
3 wrong, misrepresented, etc. etc. Not going to waste a good smart-ass remark at this level. The number will be much higher.
5 wrong, misrepresented, etc. etc. See 3 wrong.
7 wrong, misrepresented, etc. etc. I will put a statement into my signature block with a suitable reference to this event. It will remain there till Spring starts.
Remember, he gets paid to try and pass shit off as truth.
Remind me what you get.
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03-03-2012, 11:59 AM
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Essence, you posted nothing except your opinion. All those things are backed up by facts. You'd rather ridicule than refute. I understand. When the facts are against you, try to yell louder.
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It is impossible to provide evidence that the moon is not made out of cheese, you just have to assume some level of intelligence and gather all the information which demonstrates it is made of something else.
So, it is not possible to disprove that the 'government claims raw milk is extremely dangerous to the public', it is unlikely to find a government employee would say 'raw milk is extremely dangerous to the public', they would be laughed at, so the only evidence I would be able to find would be various more sober statements which indicate the possible consequences of widespread use of raw milk, which are relatively minor.
The same difficulties arise in all your other statements - it is not possible to provide evidence to refute the statements because the statements are so manifestly rubbish nobody with a milligram of intelligence would demean themselves to trawling through all the counter evidence.
It's the old problem Wittgenstein and Russell had of disproving there was a hippopotamus in their room. The only way was to look in every corner and verify that indeed there was no hippopotamus.
In short, where are your facts? Facts which demonstrate the 'done nothing, never, no testing whatsoever, every single, toxic; etc.
Neer say never, never say always, never say 'every single'. These are disproved by simply showing one single case. I already told you one single case.
I have never been intimately searched.
Case proven. 100% scientifically proven (unless you think I and millions others are lying, or unless you are using your own definition of 'intimate').
Deal with it, you are quoting complete baloney.
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03-03-2012, 02:42 PM
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the F'n government wants to keep the air you take into your lungs clean too.
So stop breathing.
D"OOOOOOOOOOOOH!
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03-03-2012, 04:11 PM
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CoG, you are completely wacko, there is a reason why everybody starts to throw insults at you, just look in a mirror.
The link you provide above does absolutely nothing to show that 'every single traveller must be intimately searched'.
First, she was not intimately searched.
Second, now pay close attention:
- one person is searched
is not the same as
- every person is searched.
Got it?
'Every single' is not the same as 'one'.
Write it out 1000 times until you grasp this simple concept a 3 year old can understand, and post it here by tomorrow morning. That should prevent you from posting more and more rubbish, lies, and to be frank embarrassing (to you) nonsense.
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