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Old 10-28-2012, 09:38 AM   #1
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Default Propaganda you can believe in.......

I actually started this thread on another board very soon after the attack on our embassy and the murder of our citizens.
I knew that there was no way this was about a movie trailer on YouTube that literally nobody had seen much less an area of people that don't have running water much less
mass access to the internet.
The first thing that struck me odd was the complete and total market saturation with this story and how quickly that story was rolled out as if it were factual almost like it was a per-planned canned response.
My point was that it was bullshit and there was no way this was just mobs protesting thismovie trailer.
It turns out I was 100 percent correct.

This make3s me think back to all of the other propaganda we have been spoon fed. Those that are old enough to remember back in the 60s when images of the USSR were shown on TB that it was always old fat ugly people and never the hot women that were actually there.

There are people out there that attempt top expose the propaganda and they are labeled as crazy, but are they?

Look at how biased our media has become and how little things such as the way the words are put together can incline a large number of people to believe something that is not true.

I call it...Propaganda you can believe in.....
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Old 10-28-2012, 09:48 AM   #2
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Is that why they call Fox News names. It just doesn't go along with what they've been told. Though Fox News does go along with what people have seen with their own eyes.

I've decided that Leon Panetta has to go now. His defence of inaction by saying you don't send military troops into an unknown situation. They had drones overhead, they had volunteers, and they had an absolute responsibility to provide support. Obama, Panetta, Clinton, Rice, and Carney have all lied to the American people and someone allowed those men to die alone in the dark when they had the means to rescue them.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:34 AM   #3
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I've decided that Leon Panetta has to go now. .
Then vote for Gary Johnson and please STFU about this BS.

Thread after thread after thread. Same old shit!

What perfect world do you loons live in? Shit Happens.
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Yeah, WPF, a dead ambassador and three others are "bumps in the road". We got your number. It's ok for Americans to die if Obama is in charge.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:53 AM   #5
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the paranoia of the right is staggering...
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I remember the same kind of lame excuses the right was making for Nixon.............(see EkimtheIdiot post above).
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To put a button on it, it was the GOP in Congress that told Nixon it was time to leave office.
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The Democrats have no morality; they would never act in the same manner.

Their total existence is political power and control, they could care less about good government and honest government. Accountability is not in their dictionary.
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Fox News was purposefully left out of a White House Press briefing recently that included all the other other major news networks.
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Old 10-28-2012, 05:22 PM   #10
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People do not believe the mainstream news media, they have been exposed time and tome again, both print and television. Give me msnbc anytime, at least they don't try to hide their lies, they just double down with them.

It's not merely what these people cover and how they cover it, it's what they ignore.

Some how the freedom of the press and what that is supposed to mean as a protection against malicious government actors has been lost on the last several generations
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It is not paranoia if it is actually happening, is it?
I find it rather telling how there are some that will quickly claim this sort of thing as paranoia.

I was taught to not believe everything you are told and to be skeptical if it sounds too good to be true. The fact that I can think about what is said and question it, inst paranoia it is awareness.

I have an example I have used before pertaining to the propaganda that we are fed.
We all know that there are those that are against private ownership of guns, and the harvesting of animals by hunters. We see it often.
The news report was about a whale that was found on a Texas coastal beach. The story was that it appeared to have been shot by hunters.

Not a lot to the story actually except that finding a dead whale on a Texas beach is news worthy and interesting. People seem interested in whales and are constantly trying to save them. So what actually happened to the whale? How could a hunter be so heartless to shoot a whale with a gun and kill it?

My thought process was bullshit!
I do not know of many hunters that hunt on the beach, where they found the whale. This would lead me to believe that the whale was killed offshore and it drifted to the beach. Again I am wondering where the hunters were hunting from in the Gulf and what were they hunting for since it is illegal to kill a whale much less hunt a whale. This makes me think that this was not a hunter that killed the whale but it could be a fisherman which is technically not a hunter as they do not shoot fish.

In the end I doubted the veracity of the story other than there was a dead whale.
A week or so later, in the paper and not the TV news that reported it, was a story in the far back with little more than an inch of type that stated the whale died from a parasite and had not been shot as reported.

My point is that most people that heard the report believed that a hunter had shot and killed a whale and that it was fact.
Propaganda you can believe in........
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Old 10-28-2012, 07:24 PM   #12
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People do not believe the mainstream news media, they have been exposed time and tome again, both print and television. Give me msnbc anytime, at least they don't try to hide their lies, they just double down with them.

It's not merely what these people cover and how they cover it, it's what they ignore.

Some how the freedom of the press and what that is supposed to mean as a protection against malicious government actors has been lost on the last several generations
I wish most people understood that MSM is just a propaganda machine for the Dimo's. Unfortunately, a high percentage of the people still don't get it. MSM is still able to prop up a horrible president ,to the exent that he has a 50/50 chance of being re-elected. If MSM had lost all credibility, Obama's approval rating would be in the twenties.
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......I doubted the veracity of the story other than there was a dead whale.
A week or so later, in the paper and not the TV news that reported it, was a story in the far back with little more than an inch of type that stated the whale died from a parasite and had not been shot as reported.

My point is that most people that heard the report believed that a hunter had shot and killed a whale and that it was fact.

Propaganda you can believe in........
The history channel .... Right.... History? As in even-handed truth?
I was watching it last night.... About the men who built America

Andrew Carnegie's steel mill... Hempstead.... Had a strike.... Over
two thousand men shut down the mill.... Barricaded themselves in

The scene where Fricke who ran the company for Carnegie sent pinkertons in to remove the strikers... Very sympathetic to the
strikers... Showing strikers dying here and there.... The voice over only spoke of striker deaths and injuries.... Not one mention of any the other way around.... Only cruel dispicable pinkertons were shown mowing down workers right and left....the voice over... 9 workers were killed many more injured... And that was it

So I went to the Internet.... 7 pinckertons were killed and 9 strikers.... The history channel didnt tell you that...

The strikers were so powerful the pinkertons couldn't remove them... The governor finally had to send in the militia to clear the mill...

Fair? You decide
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I call it revisionist history but because you do not accept it at face vague it did cause you t look further.
Unfortunately, most people will not.
Current events and very recent news is the propaganda you can believe in.
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I remember the same kind of lame excuses the right was making for Nixon.............(see EkimtheIdiot post above).


think they kicked Nixon out for doing the same things the dems had done just didn't get caught.you calling me a idiot is like the pot calling the kettle black.
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