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Old 09-12-2020, 11:43 AM   #1
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Default Dozens missing as firefighters battle two large Oregon fires

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SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Hundreds of firefighters battled two large wildfires Friday that threatened to merge near the most populated part of Oregon, including the suburbs of Portland, and the governor said dozens of people are missing in other parts of the state.
The state’s emergency management director, Andrew Phelps, said officials are “preparing for a mass fatality event” and that thousands of structures have been destroyed.
Gov. Kate Brown said more than 40,000 Oregonians have been evacuated and about 500,000 are in different levels of evacuation zones, either having been told to leave or to prepare to do so. She was dialing back on a statement late Thursday issued by the state Office of Emergency Management that said a half-million people had been ordered to evacuate statewide.
Dozens of people are missing in Jackson County in the south and Marion County, where a fire continues to burn east of Salem, Brown told a news conference Friday. Also Friday, authorities announced that a man had been arrested on two counts of arson for allegedly starting a fire in southern Oregon on Tuesday.
The Oregon Convention Center in Portland was among the buildings being transformed into shelters for evacuees. Portland, shrouded in smoke from the fires, on Friday had the worst air quality of the world’s major cities, according to IQAir
SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Hundreds of firefighters battled two large wildfires Friday that


National Guard troops and corrections officers transferred about 1,300 inmates from a women’s prison in a southern suburb of Portland “out of an abundance of caution,” the Oregon Department of Corrections said. Spokeswoman Vanessa Vanderzee said it took 20 hours to transfer the inmates Thursday to another prison in a safe zone.
A change in the weather, with winds dropping and shifting direction and humidity rising, greatly helped firefighters struggling to prevent the two fires from advancing farther west into more-populated areas.
“The wind laid down quite a bit for us yesterday. There also wasn’t that strong eastern wind that was pushing the fire more to the west,” said Stefan Myers of the state’s fire information team.
Winds coming from the Pacific Ocean also neutralized the fires’ advance and even pushed them back, Myers said.
Almost 500 personnel were working on the fires, which were just a few miles (kilometers) apart, with rugged terrain between them that limits boots-on-the-ground efforts to keep them apart, Myers said. If they merge, they could generate such heat that it causes embers to fly thousands of feet into the air, potentially igniting other areas, Myers said.





SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Hundreds of firefighters battled two large wildfires Friday that threatened to merge near the most populated part of Oregon, including the suburbs of Portland, and the governor said dozens of people are missing in other parts of the state.
The state’s emergency management director, Andrew Phelps, said officials are “preparing for a mass fatality event” and that thousands of structures have been destroyed.
Gov. Kate Brown said more than 40,000 Oregonians have been evacuated and about 500,000 are in different levels of evacuation zones, either having been told to leave or to prepare to do so. She was dialing back on a statement late Thursday issued by the state Office of Emergency Management that said a half-million people had been ordered to evacuate statewide.
Dozens of people are missing in Jackson County in the south and Marion County, where a fire continues to burn east of Salem, Brown told a news conference Friday. Also Friday, authorities announced that a man had been arrested on two counts of arson for allegedly starting a fire in southern Oregon on Tuesday.
The Oregon Convention Center in Portland was among the buildings being transformed into shelters for evacuees. Portland, shrouded in smoke from the fires, on Friday had the worst air quality of the world’s major cities, according to IQAir.





National Guard troops and corrections officers transferred about 1,300 inmates from a women’s prison in a southern suburb of Portland “out of an abundance of caution,” the Oregon Department of Corrections said. Spokeswoman Vanessa Vanderzee said it took 20 hours to transfer the inmates Thursday to another prison in a safe zone.
A change in the weather, with winds dropping and shifting direction and humidity rising, greatly helped firefighters struggling to prevent the two fires from advancing farther west into more-populated areas.
“The wind laid down quite a bit for us yesterday. There also wasn’t that strong eastern wind that was pushing the fire more to the west,” said Stefan Myers of the state’s fire information team.
Winds coming from the Pacific Ocean also neutralized the fires’ advance and even pushed them back, Myers said.
Almost 500 personnel were working on the fires, which were just a few miles (kilometers) apart, with rugged terrain between them that limits boots-on-the-ground efforts to keep them apart, Myers said. If they merge, they could generate such heat that it causes embers to fly thousands of feet into the air, potentially igniting other areas, Myers said.
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The high number of fires occurring simultaneously in the span of just a few days in Oregon was fueled by dry conditions, high temperatures and especially strong, swirling winds.
Brown said Thursday that more than 1,400 square miles (3,600 square kilometers) have burned in Oregon over the past three days, nearly double the land that burns in a typical year in the state and an area greater than the size of Rhode Island.
Oregon officials haven’t released an exact death count for the wildfires, but at least eight fatalities have been reported in the state. A 1-year-old boy was killed in wildfires in Washington.
A Northern California fire that tore through several hamlets in the foothills of the Sierra Nevada this week killed 10 people, making it the deadliest of the year.
In Oregon, evacuation centers opened across the state.
Kim Carbaugh fled from her home in Lyons with her husband, two children and two horses Monday.
“When we were driving away and I could see actual fire, the red and orange flames, at the time I didn’t feel scared, I had so much adrenaline — we just had to leave,” she said Friday from the livestock stables of the evacuation center at the State Fairgrounds in Salem.
One fire approached Molalla, triggering a mandatory evacuation order for the community of about 9,000 located 30 miles (48 kilometers) south of Portland. A police car rolled through the streets with a loudspeaker blaring “evacuate now.”


With the two large fires — called the Beachie Fire and the Riverside Fire — threatening to merge, some firefighters in Clackamas County, which encompasses Molalla, were told to disengage temporarily Thursday because of the danger. Officials tried to reassure residents who abandoned their homes and law enforcement officials said police patrols would be stepped up to prevent looting.
The change in weather also aided efforts to contain a fire near Lincoln City, on the Oregon Coast, that according to an estimate has damaged or destroyed at least 100 structures.
“Thank God, we got a wind shift. The wind started coming from the west, pushing the fire back towards the east, and that’s what kept it within its footprint and kept it from growing,” fire spokesperson Ashley Lertora said.
Full Coverage: Wildfires
Oregon’s congressional delegation announced Friday that the White House has approved the state’s request for an emergency declaration that will help provide immediate assistance from the Federal Emergency Management Agency.
Jackson County Sheriff Nathan Sickler said Friday that a 41-year-old man was jailed on two charges of arson for a fire that started Tuesday in the Phoenix area in southern Oregon.
Sickler said the Almeda fire, which burned hundreds of homes, had ignition points in Ashland near the spot where a man was found dead, and in Phoenix. Authorities said the man was arrested at the second ignition point in Phoenix and that he denied starting the fire.
Police are still investigating the first ignition point in Ashland.
In southern Oregon near the California state line, much of the small town of Phoenix was wiped out. A mobile home park, houses and businesses were burned, leaving twisted remains on charred ground.
Many of the residents were immigrants, with few resources to draw on.
Artemio Guterrez, a single father of four, had been at work at a vineyard when he saw thick smoke spreading through Rogue River Valley. He snatched his kids to safety. They escaped with only the clothes they were wearing.
“I’m going to start all over again. It’s not easy but it’s not impossible either,” said Guterrez.
In a news conference Friday, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee noted that the amount of land burned in just the past five days amounted to the state’s second-worst fire season, after 2015. He called the blazes “climate fires” rather than wildfires.
“This is not an act of God,” Inslee said. “This has happened because we have changed the climate of the state of Washington in dramatic ways.”
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Associated Press writers Gillian Flaccus in Phoenix, Oregon and Lisa Baumann and Gene Johnson in Seattle contributed to this report. AP freelance photographer Paula Bronstein also contributed to this report from Talent and Phoenix, Oregon.


https://www.latimes.com/california/s...n-newsom-trump



With California ablaze, Newsom blasts Trump administration for failing to fight climate change





The marxist, racist DPST governors of kalifornia, Oregon - and include Washington state as well - all blame Trump and 'climate change' for the fires - in reality caused by their own deliberate and knowing failure to prepare - and to clear brush that causes the fires.

there will be towns and people burned - but as long as the fires contribute to the pseudo science of climate change - a prime plank in DPST platforms - the governors and DPST party are jsut fine with the towns burned and people incinerated.



These DPST governors are murderers - admitting no responsibility for their own flagrant mis-management of the easily forseeable consequence of their legislation which prevents underbrush clearance - blinded by the marxist ideology.



The DPST party is knowingly causing this West Coast catastrophe to destabilize representative democracy and use the chaos to usher in Marxist dictatorship.

They are laughing about the catastrophe on the West coast - and care only about their Marxist revolution - not the peoples gov. newsome, Brown, and inslee have flagratnly Murdered !!!!
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Old 09-12-2020, 12:04 PM   #2
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So in a nutshell fires are being caused by liberal retards and people are missing.

Got it

Nothing will happen and liberals dont care
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Old 09-12-2020, 12:15 PM   #3
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DPST governors refuse to accept any 'Responsibility" for the fires their marxist ideology caused - aided and abetted by marxist legislatures and marxist foolish laws passed to enable the fires.

typical - the DPST governors blame trump and anyone but themselves for the catastrophe they created- Knowingly and willingly.

They are murderers!!!!
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Old 09-12-2020, 02:04 PM   #4
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some of these fires may started by arsonists
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Old 09-12-2020, 02:25 PM   #5
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some of these fires may started by arsonists
Republicans or Democrats?
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some of these fires may started by arsonists



may not be also
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Are we honestly now blaming fires on political ideology? Is that the level of idiocy we've sunk to?
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As usual grace - the point is :THE DPST Governors blame climate change for the fires - and refuse any responsibility for their own actions to deal with the matters.
They are incapable of bearing responsibility to themselves - everything that does not go in their own pockets is an ideologic issue - and blamed on capitalism, republicans, and climate change. !!!


And yes - i have sunk to the level of pointing out the shirkinig of responsibility of these governors - and holding them responsible in their offices for their dereliction of duty in favor of ideologic nonsense. .



I have 'SUNK TO THAT LEVEL'!!!


Their knowing mis-management has killed many people- and they will kill and murder many more before the fires are out.

Vote Biden - and have OBLM and AntFa burn down your city as well.
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But the tree frogs are safe or roasted in Kali ( 30-40 years of NOT clearing or control burns )
and the 4 arrested of arson ?
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Are we honestly now blaming fires on political ideology? Is that the level of idiocy we've sunk to?
Yes. The CA governor Newsome MULTIPLE times in recent days blamed the forest fires on climate change due to President Trump.

Even though for years CA government has refused to remove tinder from the area because of "environment concerns." The clearing of dead trees has been a documented concern for over a decade.

Let me do some research for you: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckde.../#5229619f5e30

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so far 7 people in the west arrested for arson look it up Portland pd arrested the same guy two x just WTF is wrong with people
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These fucking idiots blame everything on political ideology, since EVERYTHING has now been made political.

But at least Ramboebsy, Whacky and a few others are on the record as beingready to take up arms against their fellow citizen.

Great place, Trumps America.
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Are we honestly now blaming fires on political ideology? Is that the level of idiocy we've sunk to?
Their level of idiocy knows no depths. They have a little over 2 months to sink even further.

Have you ever been in a forest Oebbie Wan? Do you have any idea what a monumental undertaking it would be to mechanically clear he underbrush and old logging slash from millions of forest acres nationwide. This problem has been building for decades through misguided forest management and poor logging techniques.

There have always been forest fires. For eons they were frequent, mostly small and beneficial to the forest ecosystem. They would keep the underbrush cleared out and reducing the fuel source required to sustain a large out of control fire. Also some coniferous species would become extinct without small fires because the fires cause their seed cones to open.

For decades it was common practice to extinguish every forest fire, thus causing the underbrush to rapidly become a problem. Smokey the Bear was too successful. Adding the accumulating logging slash only exacerbated this problem. Eventually the conditions become favorable enough for the fire that it wins. This is what you are seeing now.

This isn't being caused by climate change. Since the beginning of time, The earth's climate has always been changing. Is it now changing at a much faster rate because of the influence of man? It does seem to be the case, but I can't say that for sure. I don't have all the answers on that and I don't think anybody does. Right now I don't believe it should be either totally embraced or totally dismissed.

The one thing I do know is that these large fires are not entirely caused by either side of the political spectrum. There is plenty of blame to spread around here. Attempting to say it is the fault of one side or the other is completely and totally ridiculous.
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Are we honestly now blaming fires on political ideology? Is that the level of idiocy we've sunk to?
I think we are discussing them in terms of motive to make their political point or make the other side look bad - so yes, it is a realistic concept.

Plus, some motherfuckers just like to light fires to see the flames.

Additionally, the failures of forest management can be traced to political ideology rather than science - the mighty God.
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Exactly how are you tracing the failures in forest management to ideology instead of science? I would really love to hear this one
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