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Old 08-15-2013, 08:24 PM   #1
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Default Dubmaba - The Great Enslaver!!!

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybens...ornia-n1664454

EVEN LIBERAL MEDIA NBC ADMITS OBAMA IS A FAILURE!!!!

NBC News: Negative Obamacare Effects 'From Maine to California'
Guy Benson | Aug 14, 2013

The only surprise here is the source. The details are all too familiar:

Employers around the country, from fast-food franchises to colleges, have told NBC News that they will be cutting workers’ hours below 30 a week because they can’t afford to offer the health insurance mandated by the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare. “To tell somebody that you’ve got to decrease their hours because of a law passed in Washington is very frustrating to me,” said Loren Goodridge, who owns 21 Subway franchises, including a restaurant in Kennebunk. “I know the impact I’m having on some of my employees.” Goodridge said he’s cutting the hours of 50 workers to no more than 29 a week so he won’t trigger the provision in the new health care law that requires employers to offer coverage to employees who work 30 hours or more per week...The White House dismisses such examples as "anecdotal." Jason Furman, chairman of the president’s Council of Economic Advisors, said, “We are seeing no systematic evidence that the Affordable Care Act is having an adverse impact on job growth or the number of hours employees are working. … [S]ince the ACA became law, nearly 90 percent of the gain in employment has been in full-time positions.”

That claim is hard to square with this recent analysis reported by McClatchy:

The jobless rate is based on a sample of self-reporting from ordinary people across the nation, and it’s the Labor Department measure that shows a very troubling trend in hiring. “Over the last six months, of the net job creation, 97 percent of that is part-time work,” said Keith Hall, a senior researcher at George Mason University’s Mercatus Center. “That is really remarkable.” Hall is no ordinary academic. He ran the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the agency that puts out the monthly jobs report, from 2008 to 2012. Over the past six months, he said, the Household Survey shows 963,000 more people reporting that they were employed, and 936,000 of them reported they’re in part-time jobs.

It seems that someone is wildly distorting the numbers. Either it's the man who ran the non-partisan BLS for half-a-decade, or it's the Obama White House. Gee. Back to the NBC news piece, which includes strong push-back against the administration's "anecdotal evidence" claim from a both labor union and the network's own findings:

But the president of an influential union that supports Obamacare said the White House is wrong. "It IS happening," insisted Joseph Hansen, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers union, which has 1.2 million members. "Wait a year. You'll see tremendous impact as workers have their hours reduced and their incomes reduced. The facts are already starting to show up. Their statistics, I think, are a little behind the time." In a letter to Democratic leaders on Capitol Hill, Hansen joined other labor chieftains in warning that the ACA as presently written could “destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the middle class.” NBC News spoke with almost 20 small businesses and other entities from Maine to California, and almost all said that because of the new law they’d be cutting back hours for some employees – an unintended consequence of the new law.

Among the people who could be hit by future hour cuts are public school teachers and other workers. Many small businesses are being forced to make major, costly decisions about employees' coverage without all the facts, leading to widespread uncertainty. It's no wonder that 41 percent of small business owners told Gallup that they've instituted a hiring freeze. Another 19 percent have actually shed jobs "as a specific result of the Affordable Care Act." Will the White House sneer at this data as "anecdotal," too? Of course federal workers want no part of this law. I'll leave you with two Obamacare-related items: (1) Fox News' Chris Stirewalt dredges up this classic quote from the president, from when he was pushing the law back in 2010:

“We can't have a system that works better for the insurance companies than it does for the American people…. And they will keep on doing this for as long as they can get away with it.”

Stirewalt argues -- as I did yesterday -- that the administration's new cost-cap delay "works better for insurance companies than it does for the American people." Temporarily, at least. He goes on to lay out how the recent string of extra-legal Obamacare carve-outs, delays and suspensions have benefited the "wealthy and well-connected." And no one's better connected than Congress itself. (2) Obamacare defenders will eagerly point to a new study showing that nearly half of those Americans who will purchase insurance on the individual market under the law will qualify for federal subsidies. Great. First of all, subsidies cost taxpayers money. Those credits don't magically appear, which is why this law is projected to increase deficits by trillions. Also, the 48 percent stat means that a majority won't receive help as costs spike -- and some of that 48 percent subset won't get significant enough assistance to offset premium increases -- especially those who've been dumped from employer-based plans to the individual market. Which brings me to my final point: This is a reminder that Obamacare will neither allow people to keep their existing arrangement (as they were promised repeatedly), nor will it reduce family costs by $2,500 per family (another infamous vow). The best the Left can offer is, "but almost half of you will get some government money!" Pop the cork, America.
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Old 08-16-2013, 12:39 AM   #2
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How misleading can you be? That's not true and it's not right. At least you're walking lockstep with all the other Wingtard zombies.

Just when you thought the Political Box couldn't get any fucking dumber...
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Old 08-16-2013, 06:53 AM   #3
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It's not only true, IT'S A FACT! No one expects you to admit the truth. After all your head is so far up your ass and your eyes full of shit you couldn't see the truth. And if you did wipe the shit from your face you lack reading and comprehension skills!

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Old 08-16-2013, 06:58 AM   #4
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Of course it is a failed (mega failure) presidency; note that none of his defenders even try to defend him any longer...they just attack the opposition with argumentum ad hominem....and try to run out the clock til November 2015.

Even deflection has stopped being a useful tool of the Obamazombies.

The history books will not be kind to the Obama legacy. Even the most jaded progressive historian will have to bend the truths to defend him in 20+ years time. A legacy of debt, systemic unemployment, hated legislation, heavy handed regulations, and Nixonian abuses of executive powers ! A loss decade !
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Old 08-16-2013, 08:15 AM   #5
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Of course it is a failed (mega failure) presidency; note that none of his defenders even try to defend him any longer...they just attack the opposition with argumentum ad hominem....and try to run out the clock til November 2015.

Even deflection has stopped being a useful tool of the Obamazombies.

The history books will not be kind to the Obama legacy. Even the most jaded progressive historian will have to bend the truths to defend him in 20+ years time. A legacy of debt, systemic unemployment, hated legislation, heavy handed regulations, and Nixonian abuses of executive powers ! A loss decade !
Trendy seems to have forgotten that:

WISCONSIN AND AMERICA WERE NOT "TRENDING" ROMNEY!

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Old 08-16-2013, 09:13 AM   #6
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Of course it is a failed (mega failure) presidency; note that none of his defenders even try to defend him any longer...they just attack the opposition with argumentum ad hominem....and try to run out the clock til November 2015.

Even deflection has stopped being a useful tool of the Obamazombies.

The history books will not be kind to the Obama legacy. Even the most jaded progressive historian will have to bend the truths to defend him in 20+ years time. A legacy of debt, systemic unemployment, hated legislation, heavy handed regulations, and Nixonian abuses of executive powers ! A loss decade !
As usual, you are an idiot. And now you are an idiot who can foresee the future. Oh, wait....your record on predicting what is going to happen in the future isn't too fucking good, is it?
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:30 AM   #7
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Is this Marshy - again?!?
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:49 AM   #8
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Eight years wasted under Obama..................

The fucker couldn't even improve race relations; he made it worse....
The fucker couldn't improve the economy; he made it worse...
The fucker couldn't lower our debt and maintain our credit rating; he made it worse.......
The fucker couldn't improve our standing in the world; he made it worse........

The record of Obama's failures are endless............here and abroad.

FACT JACK !
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FACT JACK !
WISCONSIN AND AMERICA WERE NOT "TRENDING" ROMNEY!

FACT JACK!
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:01 AM   #10
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Trendy seems to have forgotten that:

WISCONSIN AND AMERICA WERE NOT "TRENDING" ROMNEY!
Looking like they've .... errrr.... changed their minds!

It just takes some people a little longer to sober up .... after long hours of snake oil consumption.

When are you going to get sober, BT?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

Not to steal your thunder, but to anticipate your "obsessive habits" ... Here are "his" numbers for 2005

2005 Aug 8-11
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51
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2005 Aug 5-7
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2005 Jul 25-28
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The 45, 45, and 44 are the % of approval for doing a good job
The 51, 51, and 51 are the % of disapproval for doing a good job.

Gallup!

See you "on the otherside" ... friend ... just before the exit door opens to the moving vans.
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Looking like they've .... errrr.... changed their minds!
By this time in W's 2nd term, wasn't he is the mid 30's and falling?
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Old 08-16-2013, 10:09 AM   #12
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By this time in W's 2nd term, wasn't he is the mid 30's and falling?
yup. and LL, et al, was licking his boots ... and still are
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yup. and LL, et al, was licking his boots ... and still are
LL spent 8 years moonlighting as W's Lap Dog! Woof!
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Is this Marshy - again?!?
I was just about to post the same thing.

Rockhead appeared on this board barely a month ago and he is opining about how stupid others are like he have been here for a long time.

He is getting in Yssup's face like an old pro, even though Yssup has been pretty quiet for the last few weeks.

So, I think The Rockhead has been here before under another name.
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Old 08-16-2013, 11:02 AM   #15
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Same stupid arguments, same type of polls....heard exact same thing about this time last year. Right before November 2012.

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Looking like they've .... errrr.... changed their minds!

It just takes some people a little longer to sober up .... after long hours of snake oil consumption.

When are you going to get sober, BT?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...oval-1044.html

Not to steal your thunder, but to anticipate your "obsessive habits" ... Here are "his" numbers for 2005

2005 Aug 8-11
45
51
4
2005 Aug 5-7
45
51
4
2005 Jul 25-28
44
51
5


The 45, 45, and 44 are the % of approval for doing a good job
The 51, 51, and 51 are the % of disapproval for doing a good job.

Gallup!

See you "on the otherside" ... friend ... just before the exit door opens to the moving vans.
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