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Old 06-17-2013, 02:29 AM   #1
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Default Preferred method of securing a deposit for 'Fly me to you' dates?

For those with prior experience, what is your preferred payment method of securing/paying for a deposit for a 'Fly me to you' travel date?

And how much of an initial deposit do you ladies like to secure, or you gents feel is suitable? 25%? 50%?

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Old 06-17-2013, 04:34 AM   #2
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Good thread.

I think from the clients perspective.......for me it works two ways......Ill either pay the ladies flight in advance, or if she's driving no more than 40 percent of the booking rate.....which is usually the same. Roughly usually for me somewhere between 300 and 600. But regularly 400 and these were for overnight rates. If there's no monetary incentive for me rate wise to prebook I won't. And I want to see her that first night she arrives.

I think her driving to me is more risky....because she will be tired more than likely.....or stopping in other cities in route to me. If she's more than one state over, I won't do 40 percent but slightly less.

I won't feel weird investing at least her 1hour or 2 hour rate if her rate is considerably lower than most overnights.....that way if she isn't genuine in her regards of coming its not a total loss.

These percentage are very dependent on the rates though. So they are situational. And the lady must be highly reviewed. But generally if I'm paying anything I'm going to keep the appointment. I don't know what lady would need more security than that. Anything could transpire that would lead to her cancelling. So unless she's a can't miss chick, I won't opt to do this but will show interest and book if she's serious.

One time I had one lady who said she would come with a prebook rate but could not see me the first night. Said the overnight would make her tired and tire out her body and she saw no incentive toward it......So local ladies win in this regard it seems. Unless the lady is touring for a week or so.

Now as far as the method.....I prefer western union. I don't like green dot........it will require trust of a name to pick it up, but I'm also trusting her to come through and pass through. Its a more even risk for me.

But I will say prebooking by prepaying more than often doesn't work out. She will expect a tip or hint at it.......and feel as though she's doing something for free. And less motivation to perform to the best of her ability.......the incentive to perform is nowhere on the dresser....she already got it.
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For those with prior experience, what is your preferred payment method of securing/paying for a deposit for a 'Fly me to you' travel date?

And how much of an initial deposit do you ladies like to secure, or you gents feel is suitable? 25%? 50%?

Feel free to pm me if you want to share in private
If a guy can afford to fly you in, he should pay for the flight in advance. I've never done it unless I've already seen the lady in her town, though. You seem quite honorable and dependable though, so in your case I would take a chance on the first date and fly you in without any concern, Then, pay for the next part once you show up.
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Although I have not done it, I do think 50 % is fair enough. It will show that the gent is serious.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:25 PM   #5
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Is there taint exposed prior to the deposit?
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:50 PM   #6
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I agree with 50%.
You should have several discreet methods of obtaining your deposit. And there are only a couple I would choose with someone that I have never met.
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Old 06-17-2013, 10:57 PM   #7
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Good thread.

Now as far as the method.....I prefer western union. I don't like green dot........it will require trust of a name to pick it up, but I'm also trusting her to come through and pass through. Its a more even risk for me.

But I will say prebooking by prepaying more than often doesn't work out. She will expect a tip or hint at it.......and feel as though she's doing something for free. And less motivation to perform to the best of her ability.......the incentive to perform is nowhere on the dresser....she already got it.
But judging from your previous posts, it's probably because you're dealing with inexperienced women and you're paying rock bottom rates to begin with. I would love to see you pay a woman who knows the value of an overnight, give her the deposit she asks for and see you not have to complain about another overnight.
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Old 06-17-2013, 11:08 PM   #8
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I provide round trip tickets but only for those I have previously experienced some time with and would giver up the 'frequent flyer miles' LOL to get them to my crib. You gals have a lot more guts than you get credit for the risks inherent in what you all do on a daily, much less at remote locations.
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I bought the tickets on line for a lady and all she had to do was pick up the ticket at the airport. Of course you will need her RL name. That is where you need to be close and know each others RL information. Trust between the two of you exists when you have seen each other many times.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:52 AM   #10
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But judging from your previous posts, it's probably because you're dealing with inexperienced women and you're paying rock bottom rates to begin with. I would love to see you pay a woman who knows the value of an overnight, give her the deposit she asks for and see you not have to complain about another overnight.
Previous posts about what...a rate? What rate do you determine to be "ratchet priced" for an overnight. Sometimes I pay less......and sometimes I pay more how would you know different? Its just dependent on what she offers. But one thing I can guarantee you, is the price I have paid has always been what we agreed on.......I didn't force any lady to take anything. Overnights are always negotiable regardless of the rate you see on websites.....not always but its definitely spoken on.

And when was I complaining? Maybe you had someone else in mind........(powder room post maybe) lol.
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I would need a deposit to cover round trip airfare, car service & hotel room fees plus 25% of my rate
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Not sure if everyone would quite agree.

I think if a client is playing in the higher end market, where they would be flying in a companion, said companion would have a cover business. Remember, just being an escort is legal. Many escorts have a cover business.

Anyway, the provider can setup up a PO box for their cover business, and the gent simple sends a pre-paid visa card. The address could be:

Coco Fondu, LLC,
PO Box 69,
Intercourse PA, 17534
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:00 PM   #13
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Previous posts about what...a rate? What rate do you determine to be "ratchet priced" for an overnight. Sometimes I pay less......and sometimes I pay more how would you know different? Its just dependent on what she offers. But one thing I can guarantee you, is the price I have paid has always been what we agreed on.......I didn't force any lady to take anything. Overnights are always negotiable regardless of the rate you see on websites.....not always but its definitely spoken on.

And when was I complaining? Maybe you had someone else in mind........(powder room post maybe) lol.
I'll dig up your posts in a bit, but you post every time there's a mention of overnights. You've mentioned ladies cutting out on you early, expecting dinner, same-day overnight appointments, and getting all their money at the end instead of up front. And I'm not saying it's all your fault. A woman that lets a man low-ball her rates or gets into a situation before knowing what's expected gets what she asks for. But where you do falter is taking advantage of this naivety. It shows in the advice you give.

And from my understanding, an overnight takes on a different meaning with you. Come on, be real. Just from your expectations, paying less should never be an option. My fair price for my overnight is on MY website. I can't dictate what others charge. But I know when you said 40% of her total was 400 I know somebody wasn't happy. A lady should have a definite plan in preparing for an overnight with you, and if she doesn't you should be running the other way. Initiating or accepting an overnight appointment withing 24 hours is asking for trouble.

I'm not trying to come down on you, but your advice is that of a man who bargain shops, and gets burned. I have been offering/partaking in overnights and collecting deposits for years, and could never tell another lady that collecting deposits would never work. Because it does. There are gents out there who will pay her deposit, and she will be happy that he's willing to do what it takes, and she will show him the time of his life. That's the way it works.

I never said that you 'beat' anyone out of any money. It's just that you know what to expect when you're dealing with some BP girl who has never done an overnight or a dinner date, as opposed to a woman who has that experience, and understands what's expected of her.

A real man gives a lady what is on her website. That way he doesn't get a less than desirable performance, or to feel like she's done something for free. And there's nothing wrong with offering a friend a special rate. But sometimes taking advantage of a lady's desperation is not all it's cracked up to be.

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Why would I pay a lady to sleep or allow me to sleep? Shit, all I need is two minutes and a nap.
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:59 PM   #15
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I use , popmoney, cash, and money orders for 50% deposits.

There are certain situations that may arise which constitute me fully refunding their deposit.

An overnight with me means there's not going to be sleeping. Any time frame past an overnight requires planned activities.

Question for the OP....are you traveling out of the country with your client? If so that is a whole different ball game.
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