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07-28-2019, 09:06 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: May 8, 2012
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 100
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P411 Opinion
What do you guys think P411 membership services with the new management? See any difference in quality of service or security fears?
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07-28-2019, 09:58 PM
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Twilight Dancer
Join Date: Feb 8, 2019
Location: NYC
Posts: 809
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Haven't had a problem... No real noticeable changes.
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07-28-2019, 10:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 9, 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,071
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^^^^ What he said, although Gina was more willing to pin the pin on providers who did not respond to requests in a timely manner.
Unfortunately, from an "Admirer" standpoint, when P411 opened it's enrollment for providers, a lot of lower - end providers with NO TCB skills were admitted. Understood, P411 has to refresh it's listings or it goes away, but the newest group of providers has a lot to learn about TCB.
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07-29-2019, 08:03 AM
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Join Date: Mar 19, 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,475
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Originally Posted by Anonymous01
^^^^ What he said, although Gina was more willing to pin the pin on providers who did not respond to requests in a timely manner.
Unfortunately, from an "Admirer" standpoint, when P411 opened it's enrollment for providers, a lot of lower - end providers with NO TCB skills were admitted. Understood, P411 has to refresh it's listings or it goes away, but the newest group of providers has a lot to learn about TCB.
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Good point though I have noticed a real drop in the quality of TCB and other provider tangibles, long before Gina went over the hill!
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07-29-2019, 08:21 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Feb 9, 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,071
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You said it!
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Good point though I have noticed a real drop in the quality of TCB and other provider tangibles, long before Gina went over the hill!
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+1!
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07-29-2019, 08:59 AM
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Join Date: Oct 1, 2013
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 12,555
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I still see it "as the gold standard " Providers TCB skill are just all over the place good bad iffy , Modern times I guess ,
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07-29-2019, 09:09 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Mar 19, 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,475
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Originally Posted by rexdutchman
I still see it "as the gold standard " Providers TCB skill are just all over the place good bad iffy , Modern times I guess ,
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If it is the Gold Standard than it must be Fool’s Gold, which makes us guys the fools for accepting it IMO!
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07-29-2019, 01:57 PM
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BANNED
Join Date: Feb 17, 2018
Location: Ok
Posts: 4,246
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Back page was best
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07-29-2019, 09:29 PM
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Join Date: Apr 1, 2013
Location: Sacramento, ca
Posts: 2,446
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When I as traveling a lot P411 was a good option for references.
Today most of my traveling is done In a tight geographical region and I find less than 10% of the providers in my area are P411 members.
In my case it's better to belong to the large regional website and to develope a strong presence on the regional board, attend the "get togethers", than spend the money for P411.
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07-30-2019, 08:10 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Mar 19, 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,475
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Originally Posted by Fizley
When I as traveling a lot P411 was a good option for references.
Today most of my traveling is done In a tight geographical region and I find less than 10% of the providers in my area are P411 members.
In my case it's better to belong to the large regional website and to develope a strong presence on the regional board, attend the "get togethers", than spend the money for P411.
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Mostly true but I do like the chance to meet girls on tour coming into Tulsa from all over and I achieve this with my 411 account!
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07-30-2019, 11:59 AM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Aug 22, 2011
Location: Texas
Posts: 177
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I just renewed this month. To me it is worth the $. I travel to several areas that P411 is very popular. I have found that I sail thru the screening process with out any problems when using P411.
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07-30-2019, 01:30 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Feb 9, 2014
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 1,071
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^^^^ What he said.
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07-30-2019, 02:44 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Mar 19, 2010
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 4,475
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...What both said! Been a member for a decade plus and not walking away now...!
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07-30-2019, 06:47 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: May 8, 2012
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 100
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Thank you ... I'll go ahead and renew then ... I've been a member for some time, but did not use even oce for past 2 years. I know it helps if we tour often - I used to but not much any more. Cost:benefit wise - cost is not a big deal. I can afford.
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07-30-2019, 08:12 PM
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Twilight Dancer
Join Date: Feb 8, 2019
Location: NYC
Posts: 809
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If you get a life time membership, you never have to worry about renewing ever again. I don't know if they are still offering them since the transition. If they are, there is eligibility criteria, which you may or may not meet. To me I'll never have a renewal in the back of my mind, it's just always there for me. If the site is around another 40 years, and I'm still alive another 40 years from now, I can still use it.
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