Haggling, Negotiating Pricing, Gifts and Being A Cheap Bastard.... does it work?

[Still Looking]

Haggling, Negotiating Pricing, Gifts and Being A Cheap Bastard.... does it work and is it worth doing?

For some it might. Some hobbyists are masters of some how reducing providers prices by different means. One being they offer a stellar review. Others point out that similar providers they see "only" charge a certain rate. They ask for specials. There seems to be many ways hobbyist have come up with to try and get even an already low price even lower. The question is...

Does it work and is it worth doing?

For me if I'm told a price... that's the price. I do NOT haggle or negotiate pricing. WHY? its really simple. When I shop to have a hobbyist / provider experience I look to have fun and have my expectations met. For some reason I have it in my mind that if I can figure out how to reduce the providers price the session itself might suffer and my expectations might not be met. I feel that when I hit the door the lady is "thinking" oh good here is the "cheap bastard" who got me to lower my price(s).

On to gifts. I ALWAYS bring gifts. Why? Really simple reason that's part of the no haggling and negotiating price(s) answer. I want to do something nice and unexpected for this person I'm about to get to know intimately. Once again eliminating the chances of have an average or less than average session. In short... I pull out all the stops to make sure nothing gets in the way of have a great time!

Does it work and is it worth doing? That's the BIG question. For me it does. I found out early on that in the long run many doors have been opened that might not have been had I been a cheap bastard. Being offered menu items not normally offered. Being asked to stay longer if they don't have other obligations. OTC (Off The Clock) Investing time to get to know the "lady" behind the escort proves to be entertaining, informative and certainly adds to the next hobby encounter with that lady. In many cases being able to take both pictures and video. Not always welcome by many providers. So for me... YES it works and it's worth it!

Now I know there are those that are of the mind set that I pay them to LEAVE! They have totally different expectations. Especially guys who are married or have SO'S. In short it's all about the SEX.

So ladies share your thoughts. How do you feel about hobbyists that try to haggle or negotiate your prices? Can a session with a hobbyist be effected if in fact the hobbyist negotiated a lower price from you? How do you feel about hobbyists that bring gifts?

Guys share your thoughts. Do you feel perhaps your session might suffer if you haggle or negotiate prices? Share your reasons on why you do or don't haggle or negotiate prices. How do you feel about bringing gifts?

[atlcomedy]

I get a lot of mileage out of small gifts. People love getting presents. Something completely unexpected. Really doesn't matter what it is.*

Some examples:
Bottle of wine/spirits. Doesn't need to be expensive. Bonus points if she list her favorite type (e.g. Merlot) on her showcase/website, particularly if she is touring and traveling by plane (finding a liquor store is sometimes a pain and room service wine lists can be pricy).

Starbucks just the way she likes it (ATF)

Sex toys (in original packaging)

Free liquor company t-shirt I got at a bar much too small for me but hot on a woman

Chocolate

You get the point....doesn't need to break the bank

*unless she knows you well, everything ingestible should be in new, original packaging. No homemade gifts.

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

I get a lot of mileage out of small gifts. People love getting presents. Something completely unexpected. Really doesn't matter what it is.*

Some examples:
Bottle of wine/spirits. Doesn't need to be expensive. Bonus points if she list her favorite type (e.g. Merlot) on her showcase/website, particularly if she is touring and traveling by plane (finding a liquor store is sometimes a pain and room service wine lists can be pricy).

Starbucks just the way she likes it (ATF)

Sex toys (in original packaging)

Free liquor company t-shirt I got at a bar much too small for me but hot on a woman

Chocolate

You get the point....doesn't need to break the bank

*unless she knows you well, everything ingestible should be in new, original packaging. No homemade gifts.

I totally agree! Please don't tell me you give out autographed copies of your avatar?

[EmilyEzzell]

I haggle for coupons for astrology.com, Lee press on nails, dollar tree and the list goes on and on. I change my mind by the minute.

I think an excellent gift would be a water balloon filler, slinky or finger puppets.

[Jackpotvinny]

I always book overnights, so when price comes up it may or may not be in my range.
If it's not, I will tell her what is. The end result is usually very fair to both of us.
Btw, if the price is right from the beginning, no haggling.

Now my question..when I do, it's usually out of state. I try to start with a really nice dinner, and she usually picks.

Is this expected for an overnight, or is this considered a gift? Should I pick up something at the airport when I arrive?

Inquiring minds want to know....

[Still Looking]

Originally Posted by EmilyEzzell

I haggle for coupons for astrology.com, Lee press on nails, dollar tree and the list goes on and on. I change my mind by the minute.

I think an excellent gift would be a water balloon filler, slinky or finger puppets.

Says the 46 year old from Dallas at $632.07 per hour. I'm going to need Chica Chasers calculator to figure out the minute price on this sexy lady!

How about nipples pasties? Lee press on nails.... I love it!

[atlcomedy]

Originally Posted by Jackpotvinny

I always book overnights, so when price comes up it may or may not be in my range.
If it's not, I will tell her what is. The end result is usually very fair to both of us.
Btw, if the price is right from the beginning, no haggling.

Now my question..when I do, it's usually out of state. I try to start with a really nice dinner, and she usually picks.

Is this expected for an overnight, or is this considered a gift? Should I pick up something at the airport when I arrive?

Inquiring minds want to know....

Dinner or some sort of sustenance is typically required or considered to be part of the standard activity set for a date over lasting 3-4 hours plus.

I wouldn't consider it a gift in the same way a small tangible item is a gift but the whole point is to show consideration by making a gesture. I think you score points with some allowing her to pick a restaurant.

I do think the airport or hotel shop could be nice for picking up something. Again it is a gesture not a big expensive gift.

Back to the restaurant thing, indulge me in a bit of thread drift: How does that work? (ladies chime in here too) Does picking a place create anxiety on her part or indecisiveness? I guess you are coming from out of town so ostensibly she knows the city better.

When I do dinner dates I usually ask if she has any special dietary needs (e.g. don't take the vegan to the steakhouse) then pick a place and suggest it to her saying, "how does (restaurant name) on (street) sound to you?" so if there is a reason she doesn't want to go their she can veto it but generally it is fine with her. Of the times I've told the lady to pick, about half the time it seems to be an adventure getting her to just pick a damn place. Either she's indecisive, doesn't know the area well herself or is trying to please me (not a bad thing) and doesn't know what I like. So I stopped asking open ended questions and have started making suggestions.

[Jackpotvinny]

Originally Posted by atlcomedy

Back to the restaurant thing, indulge me in a bit of thread drift: How does that work? (ladies chime in here too) Does picking a place create anxiety on her part or indecisiveness? I guess you are coming from out of town so ostensibly she knows the city better.

I do text before. What works is having her decide on 3 or 4 types of food she likes, then replying which on the list is not favorable for my tastes, then let her pick what and where.

The restaurant is the easy part.

I'm more for the non-vanilla type sessions, so most details planed beforehand are important, I do leave some leeway for the unexpected...

[hd]

Emily, how a bout a Chia Pet?

not sure if there are any battery operated ones...............yet!

[offshoredrilling]

frequent flier miles

[MaxiMilyen]

Bring me some Mop n Glo, cause moppin' floors is FUN, or maybe even some new vacuum cleaner bags still in the package.

Dang, now I'm all excited!

[Cpalmson]

Originally Posted by Still Looking

Says the 46 year old from Dallas at $632.07 per hour. I'm going to need Chica Chasers calculator to figure out the minute price on this sexy lady!

How about nipples pasties? Lee press on nails.... I love it!

Ummm, I think you mean my calculator to determined the per minute price of the sex-- LOL

Spot on post. When I meet a lady for the first time, I don't try to haggle price. It is what it is. I wouldn't even be contacting her if I didn't think she was worth what her rates are. For crying out loud, we have reviews, pics, word of mouth. You have enough info at your finger tips to decide if you want to pay her rates. All I want to know is if her services will meet my expectations. If so, no need to haggle. Now having said that, I do believe that when you have an established relationship with a girl, then under the right circumstances it might be okay to work out some type of arrangement. Also, if the provider is known for running specials, I see no harm in asking if she is offering a special. Now usually, this is for one of those lets just have sex sessions and not lets take our time sessions.

As for gifts, I'm hesitant to bring a gift to a first time meeting. Also, I think bringing a gift can put the lady in an awkward situation. I only bring gifts to my Sugar Babies. I don't see these girls as providers. I see them as friends and someone I genuinely like being around. For my babies, they appreciate the gifts, and makes our future dates all the more special.

[JayceeRivers]

Well thought out gifts are very moving. Ones that show the gentleman has researched the lady herself enough to know she would like xyz. The price of the gift (to me at least) has never mattered.

Do gifts hold sway on the date at all? If it is well thought out I cannot help but be swayed. Knowing he may have put in as much preparation (if not more) into our date makes me want to go above and beyond and stretch my limits in good ways. Yes I am more liable to go off menu when the gentleman proves right off the bat to be thoughtful. In a way these small thoughtful gestures of bringing wine, a small gift, chocolates or even flowers makes me (possibly us?) feel more human. More like a person instead of a commodity. That does not mean I expect, demand or require gifts. I try to enjoy myself and make sure he enjoys himself as much as possible no matter what.

As for the dinner. I personally would count allowing me to choose the restaurant as a gift. But then I would be selecting a very nice restaurant.

Of course I consider constant flattery a gift too. If you made me blush due to flattery, you have already given me a priceless gift.

I forgot to add, Haggling and trying to find discounts and specials. If it is asked of me (the rare times I do accept) I am never as good as I would have been otherwise. Particularly because I am liable to book a second date on that day to make up for the discounted date. Generally it does put a damper on the mood and will bring out insecurities in the most confident of ladies. Nothing ruins the mood more than thinking "am I only worth xxx amount? Am I doing a good or bad thing for taking this discounted date? How will I decline him in the future?"
Discounted dates also come with the burden of not being able to provide the ideal atmosphere I prefer. I want to have chilled wine waiting, possibly a small platter of fruit with optional whipped cream. Lit candles. A new music set purchased with him in mind, a new piece of lingerie debuted for him alone (probably why my lingerie has overrun my closet) perfectly manicured nails and toes. ect. I have to cut costs to accommodate and the mood suffers for this.

[JohnnyCap]

I do not haggle. But I have, being of limited resources, told ladies, when asked, that I wouldn't be around much because I'm just a blue collar stiff, and been offered a lower rate to be more regular. A very rare occurrence that doesn't work out all that well in the long run, but a nice gesture to enjoy while it lasts. The bloom eventually falls off the rose on one side or the other.

[Indirah.Raven]

A thought provoking subject here. Discounts aren't my cup of tea, although I do appreciate when a gentlemen presents me with a gift. I found that when I discounted my rates, I attracted a crowd that was more interested in meetings of the rushed kind.