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Old 03-01-2019, 09:28 AM   #1
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Default Why isn’t anybody talking about the fiasco in Vietnam?

Amazing how little is being said in this moron about t.rump’s latest masterpiece of diplomacy in Vietnam.

Except of course that Congress was out of line for stepping into his spotlight, which a skeptic would opine was the reason for his second meeting with Kim to begin with.

Looks like the big winner in this fiasco just might be China.

And the war of bullshit has begun.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-vietnam-could

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...a-human-rights

https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/28/...vietnam-summit
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:37 AM   #2
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FAKE NEWS...
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:44 AM   #3
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Praytell. What’s your take on the summit?
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Old 03-01-2019, 09:51 AM   #4
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I don't understand why everyone thinks America should suck another country's dick when they have been adamant about how they would destroy us.

Screw being a kiss ass..
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:00 AM   #5
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I don't agree that China should be worried that Trump ls willing to walk away from NK talks.

North Korea has nothing to offer us. The US holds all the cards. We lose nothing by walking away. Korea has everything to gain by trying to keep us at the table.

It's a completely different with China, and Xi knows that. We lose if we walk away. They do too. I don't think as badly as us.

Trump has brought manufacturing jobs back whilst being told that was a non fruit bearing venture.

It has help to improve our economy and if talks with China don't pan out, it could put those jobs in danger again.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:00 AM   #6
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The President is trying a new approach. For years, low level diplomats tried to work out resolutions that would curtail North korea's nuclear ambitions. It failed. What we ended up with was a North Korea with not only the ability to produce a fission bomb, but the means to deliver it.

So President Trump is trying an approach of one on one with the very men that make the decisions, Iim and himself.

Kim tried his usual game this time as his Father did before, get the US to agree to a whole lot while they in affect gave up nothing..

The President saw through this, and walked away. Kim knows President Trump is playing hardball.

Since President Trump has tried this approach, North Korea has not test fired a missle. Tensions have definetally been taken down several notches.

The Liberal/Progressive/Socialist/Democrats in our Country hate President Trump so much that they would rather see him fail doing the right thing. Nancy Peloci and Chuck Schumer both praised the President for walking away rather than signing a useless agreement just so he could say he got something done.

This was President Trump's Reykjavik moment. It could have been his Neville Chamberlain moment, waiving a worthless piece of paper and declaring, "we have peace in our time".

He did the right thing.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:02 AM   #7
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Amazing how little is being said in this moron about t.rump’s latest masterpiece of diplomacy in Vietnam.

Except of course that Congress was out of line for stepping into his spotlight, which a skeptic would opine was the reason for his second meeting with Kim to begin with.

Looks like the big winner in this fiasco just might be China.

And the war of bullshit has begun.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-vietnam-could

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...a-human-rights

https://www.euronews.com/2019/02/28/...vietnam-summit
Trump is a failed leader is why no one is talking about it. Hes so stupid that even his own personal lawyer turned on him. The Republicans like McConnell just play him to achieve their agendas. Trump is the least effective president of my lifetime
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lol....whatever, mystic...
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:16 AM   #9
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Trump is the least effective president of my lifetime
Given your unrepentant "hatred"(which you can happily deny, but is evident in almost every one of your posts) of Trump your undying wish to see him fail, it's no surprise you see him least effective.

But action for action, he's for an "average" conservative accomplished more in two years than several past administrations have accomplished overall. That you fail to see even the effectiveness of the NK negotiations is simply denial.

But carry on.
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Given your unrepentant "hatred"(which you can happily deny, but is evident in almost every one of your posts) of Trump your undying wish to see him fail, it's no surprise you see him least effective.

But action for action, he's for an "average" conservative accomplished more in two years than several past administrations have accomplished overall. That you fail to see even the effectiveness of the NK negotiations is simply denial.

But carry on.


But as to why it's not being talked about, Trump walking away from talks with NK was a close equivalent of him leaving a half eaten quarter pounder on the table.

It's of no significance.
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:30 AM   #11
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But as to why it's not being talked about, Trump walking away from talks with NK was a close equivalent of him leaving a half eaten quarter pounder on the table.

It's of no significance.
Walking away from or refusing negotiations has, is, and always will be part of negotiations. I just don't understand where the must happen this second or it's failed part of negotiations comes into play. But, oh yeah, it's only to gin up fake outrage when it's Trump. Deals are not negotiated and signed in the millisecond, second, minute, hour, day, days, weeks, and often months. Why is this being treated different? Oh yeah again, It's Trump
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:34 AM   #12
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Trump is a failed leader is why no one is talking about it. Hes so stupid that even his own personal lawyer turned on him. The Republicans like McConnell just play him to achieve their agendas. Trump is the least effective president of my lifetime

I thought it was Nixon
Maybe wrong lifetime...?!!


Good Thread
Its nice to see you all debate with intelligence instead of mud slinging..
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:36 AM   #13
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Hey YR, explain the “fiascos” of the last 70yrs. It’s why they have nukes in the first place. No fiasco this time. Rocket Man is taking a 3 day Train ride back to the worst economy in the world. Trump hopped AF1 and came back to the best economy in the world. Kim’s Military doesn’t have enough kimchi to eat.


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Maybe wrong lifetime...?!!
LOL Thats funny Danielle. Btw I do believe in multiple lives. I got so focused on the Watergate Nixon I forgot about what he ever did. Ill look it up. Maybe it was Nixon.Ill look it up
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Old 03-01-2019, 10:40 AM   #15
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But as to why it's not being talked about, Trump walking away from talks with NK was a close equivalent of him leaving a half eaten quarter pounder on the table.

It's of no significance.
Totally agree grean. NK has had the same stance with every president. Trump was counting his chickens before they hatched. The needle on NK hasn't moved
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