WIFI Question Data Tracking

[satx78209]

If a person work has Spectrum wifi and a person logs into into ECCI via a personal laptop or cell phone is there anyway the owner / of the Spectum wife be able to know the traffic and login data back to the personal laptop IP of cell phones?

How can ECCI get "linked" back to a hobbyist via a network wifi connection?

[Fizley]

If you use a router it can be tracked.

Many internet providers can easily provide a list of websites, as can cell phone providers.

[satx78209]

Can the tracking be matched to the laptop or cell phone? Or, just sites in general?

[pertpvyztrzv]

Yes. All ISPs can see your traffic. 3/4/5g, wifi, ethernet cable, home internet. But the login info is not accessible because of the S in HTTPS.

Use a VPN. Any VPN. A VPN builds a tunnel from your pc/phone to the VPN Provider's server, then your traffic goes normal to the rest of the internet.

Your ISP will only see that you connected to a VPN, but nothing else.

Yes your phone / computer can be tracked. Every individual device that connects to the internet has a unique ID. Technically called a MAC Address. Then the IP address is what the ISP provides your device that is connected to your devices mac address that allows you to visit the rest of the internet.

A VPN's server will give you a different IP for the rest of the internet to see. (Get a VPN).

Your ISP will hand over records with a court order (get a logless VPN). You should also worry about the data left on your device - browser history, cache, etc...

If you're to the point of court orders, it's too late. Get a VPN now.

I run firewalls and routers for large companies and familiar with ISP equipment and a BS in cybersecurity. Any questions let me know. Don't DM.

[satx78209]

Thank you

[Anonymous01]

And "free" VPNs are worth everything you pay for them....


DON'T CHEAP OUT!

[DNinja69]

The level of VPN and other privacy measures can vary as do the levels of security provided by more budget level products. For sure your traffic can be tracked and who knows how many lifetimes our electronic fingerprints will be around to tell on us in one way or another.

For a $100 investment you can have an anonymous burner phone and use a service like TextNow Free for calls and text and when it links to wifi there is not dot to connect to you directly outside what you put on that device.

VPN have deals especially around the holidays and can be used with most devices and if you stick with cash transactions no money trail to sniff either.

Like with a fence or padlock the bigger and better ones won't keep the varmints out if your scent attracts too much attention so I think its more about getting the products that fit your needs and doing some research then of course trying to think more with the head attached to our neck and not always with the one closer to our balls lol

[Fizley]

For a $100 investment you can have an anonymous burner phone and use a service like TextNow Free for calls and text and when it links to wifi there is not dot to connect to you directly outside what you put on that device.l

One issue to consider is cell phone triangulation. If you always carry your two phone together anyone who understands the technology can track you."

[GhostRiderYYZ]

They can track my logins all they want.. I have a VERY GOOD understanding of WIFI, directional antenna's... cracking passcodes on WIFI routers..... in other words I would appear to be in the address 3 houses down

[pertpvyztrzv]

Originally Posted by GhostRiderYYZ

They can track my logins all they want.. I have a VERY GOOD understanding of WIFI, directional antenna's... cracking passcodes on WIFI routers..... in other words I would appear to be in the address 3 houses down

True, but if I'm not at home on my phone or even public wifi, a logless vpn is a good first step.

[GhostRiderYYZ]

Originally Posted by pertpvyztrzv

True, but if I'm not at home on my phone or even public wifi, a logless vpn is a good first step.

But is a log-less VPN any good?

And what sort of activity would you need to be hiding from the government? Looking at legal porn? not even worth their time.

searching for drugs on the dark web? you need a TOR browser for that so that helps

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by GhostRiderYYZ

But is a log-less VPN any good?

And what sort of activity would you need to be hiding from the government? Looking at legal porn? not even worth their time.

searching for drugs on the dark web? you need a TOR browser for that so that helps

I wouldn't have that exact expectation of TOR. Likely does fine shielding against basic IT folk, just not the gubmint. Though I do encourage more use of TOR to keep the traffic flow going strongly to make it harder to find things through all the noise ;-) But the reality is the gubmint is everywhere in our IT sphere.

Perhaps worth a watch:
CITIZENFOUR (2014) Full Documentary About NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden

[pertpvyztrzv]

Originally Posted by GhostRiderYYZ

But is a log-less VPN any good?

And what sort of activity would you need to be hiding from the government? Looking at legal porn? not even worth their time.

searching for drugs on the dark web? you need a TOR browser for that so that helps

Depends on your individual threat model. If you're on the Feds radar you probably have bigger issues to worry about and it's too late to try and cover stuff up.

Personally, I like to think it's no one else's business. The IT guy at work (which is me) or my ISP network guy (whom I know a few and largely don't give a rat's ass (like me), until there's a subpoena (or HR request).

My personal threat model is -

1. my wife (not very tech literate), but just in case she gets someone else who is.

2. Private Investigators / Lawyers - If there's a subpoena, it's too late (see #1) and cleaning you're own trail is important. If there is a subpoena, why make it easy for them? If someone wants to see my records, there aren't going to be any and if there are they're going to have to work freaking' hard for them.

They want something - make them work for it. Cops have become lazy because all they have to do is browse social media, security cams and cell phone records, cell tower records or physically get the cell phone. Not worried about the local PD, but basically none of their business either.

TOR has become an Intelligence honey pot. A bunch of nodes are run by an agency of some sort. A bunch are run by normal people (I've run a starting node before, never an exit node) So good opsec is still needed, don't only rely on TOR for security. It's only 1 layer of that Onion. (get it?)

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

...Perhaps worth a watch:
CITIZENFOUR (2014) Full Documentary About NSA Whistleblower Edward Snowden

A text overview regarding that video: Surveillance State Exposed: The chilling echo of Snowden’s warning

A decent resource, not a beginners guide at all, has a good search engine though: https://www.securityweek.com/

I'm trying to figure out how to get an MP4 file onto ECCIE to show the depth of the reach of da gubmint, but it doesn't seem likely and links to the file on-line keep drying up - mysteriously.

[rico7]

Originally Posted by pertpvyztrzv

Yes your phone / computer can be tracked. Every individual device that connects to the internet has a unique ID.

Sorry, I'm late to this discussion. I use a VPN (supposedly no log records), but I don't understand the "unique ID" aspect as it relates to tracking etc. Am I still leaving a trail despite the VPN? Would it be possible for you to briefly elaborate on the mechanics so those of us without a background in IT or cybersecurity can understand? Thanks.


IF you're feeling generous: how do some sites know I use a VPN? Why do they block me, and is there a workaround? Thanks again.